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- 07-03-2011, 09:51 AM #11
What up everyone. Just to give a little background on myself, I’m 29 years old from Denver, Colorado. While I’ve never taken a bootcamp, I’ve been studying “game” for the last two years and really trying to push myself in the past 12 months. I couldn’t be more excited about this opportunity to push my limits over the next six weeks.
Day Zero: Wednesday, June 22nd
When I finally arrived at the Rockstar apartment I met my first roommate Matt from Australia. This was when I first realized how real this was. Interesting guys from around the world really are all coming together to challenge the very core of who we are and what we’re capable of.
Day One: Thursday, June 23rd
Our first meeting was a bit surreal. Me and the two guys staying in our apartment (Matt and Nick) we heading to meet a group of guys we’ve never met, many of which we’ve never even seen. However, any question of whether these guys would be weird was quickly overridden with a sense of how fun, interesting, and welcoming they were.
The most interesting part of the day was when everyone, instructors and students alike, gave their detailed backgrounds. While everyone is very different, the two constants were that 1) This is a group of guys that have had impressive successes in other aspects of their life, and 2) everyone is unsatisfied with their current level of success with women and willing to push their limits.
Field: We met at a local bar for dinner and it turned into a madhouse. Several instructors were in attendance (Mr. M, Venture, Sterling, and various others) and you could just feel a vibe about this group unlike anything I’ve ever experienced. Since I have never taken a boot camp, this was actually the first time I had ever seen people at the instructor level in action. Let’s just say I was incredibly impressed. I can’t wait to start learning more about how they get such awesome results with women.
Day Two: Friday, June 24th
We were very lucky that the timing of a boot camp in NYC coincided with our journey. Mr. M was the lead instructor, but for this special circumstance he was also able to bring Future, Venture (the Project Rockstar lead), Sterling (very bright up-and-coming instructor), and a couple approach coaches (including Laurent, a Rockstar from last year). The first day of class we covered openers and transitions to prepare us to confidently approach, and start a conversation with really any woman in the club.
Field: Wow. This night blew me away. I have had other nights in the past when I thought I was talking to a lot of girls. Tonight redefined what that means. I was at the club for about four hours and must have talked to at least 50 girls (probably 20 sets or so). While I got two phone numbers (one I really liked), I can tell my ability to smoothly escalate both emotionally and physically needs some work. After getting a much better look of what the instructors can do (guys that were in no better position that me when they first started!), I see tons of room for improvement in my game.
All-in-all, I was sort of in awe tonight. Everyone brought such great energy and all the instructors are really top notch. It’s exciting to see so many people coming together for a common purpose. And you can feel the extra energy when all the students, Rockstars, and Instructors are at the actual venue helping each other and bringing great energy. Each student, and Rockstar for that matter, is here because there is a deficiency in their ability to attract the woman of their choice. It’s inspiring to see so many people that refuse to simply accept that reality and instead choose to attack it head on. The balance of theory and practical application is interesting to see. I can already see it working a little, but there is certainly a long ways to go. I’m looking forward to what we cover tomorrow and if we can maintain the same level of excitement tomorrow night as we did tonight.
Day Three: Saturday, June 25th
Heading into today I was excited based on the whirlwind of last night. Today was day two of the bootcamp with an emphasis on attraction. It’s absolutely amazing what Love Systems instructors have done with the theory and practical application of attraction. While Magic Bullets is fantastic, you have no idea how much amazing insight is presented in these bootcamps. I have to give a special shout out to Sterling who blew my mind with what he’s done to consolidate all the best attraction material from instructors across the company – fantastic.
The most interesting section of today’s lecture, in my opinion, was on the newest concept of attraction. The instructors, particularly Sterling in this case, has done a great job of not only breaking out all the components, but also prioritizing them in a sense of priority and frequency. For example, two of the elements of building attraction that didn’t used to get discussed much they are actually now considered the two most important. Leaders in the industry have long talked about the importance of teasing, role plays, demonstrations of value, push pull, and various other routines. However, if you run your entire interaction with just these you are not maximizing your chance of success. The two elements they emphasize the most now are sub-communications and normal, organic conversation. First, without normal, organic conversation you can come off like a dancing monkey that’s trying too hard to impress her without bring any sense of normalcy. Secondly, and probably most importantly, every aspect of your interaction needs, or should, have the proper sub-communication. They say the majority of how we communicate is through non verbals. Not enhancing your sub-communications leaves significant opportunity on the table.
At night we headed to the same club as the previous night. While I was certainly ready for an awesome night. Tonight was a little tougher than last night. After learning so much new attraction material, I was attempting to put what I learned to work but it was coming out clunky. Just like any new challenge in life, there are growing pains. I experienced some of those pains tonight as I didn’t get any numbers. I look forward to chatting with the guys tomorrow about what I could have done better.
Day Four: Sunday, June 26th
Last day of the bootcamp. It was great to recap the events of last night with not only the other Rockstars, but also with the weekend bootcamp students. Just over the last two nights, I have heard so many stories about people (instructors, bootcamp students, and Rockstars) accomplishing feats they’ve never experienced before; it’s very inspirational. Some guys pulled numbers for the first time. Others made out with girls in the club for the first time. While others had same night lays with girls they met that night. I was most impressed with the students that had never before done any cold approaches. While they were lacking a lot of the learned skill, they brought great energy and a desire to learn. Probably just as importantly, they were willing to fail in order to learn. One of the biggest things I’m learning is that you have to be willing to try things and put yourself out there. In this hobby, you will get rejected more times than you can count. Even the best instructors get blown out frequently. This is a “game” that isn’t about how many times you lose or even what percentage of the time you win. This is a “game” that the only thing that matters is the number of times you win. Try more sets, build your skills, and you’ll succeed. However, the level to which you’ll succeed will depend on a number of factors. While I’d like to drop knowledge here and tell you everything you need to be successful, I’m realizing I still have so much to learn and my current game has many many holes. I look forward to continually pushing myself to see how much I can build my skills over the next six weeks.
I’m still in shock over the amount and quality of material that was presented to us over the last three days. Each instructor truly cares about giving the best possible experience to each student.
Tonight I’m taking my first opportunity to relax a bit and catch up on some sleep. I can sense that this is going to be an intense journey and I will need all the energy I can get.
Day Five: Monday, June 27th
Day Game!! This is the day I was most excited about when I saw our schedule for the week. I feel like I have been mentally conditioning myself for this day from soooooo long. I bought Soul’s Day Game book last August but hadn’t yet garnered the courage to use the recommended direct approach. I have literally wanted to use direct day game for 10 months… thank god I have instructors to push me. And big thanks to Nick Hoss and Bullet for teaching the topic in such a way that made it seem so simple and natural. It funny how approaching women in the day feels so different. Before I came here I can remember going out, walking the streets and shopping malls, telling myself, “today is the day I will do my first direct approach.” However, every day I tried, I would always hit this imaginary wall. When I first started doing it, I used to feel a ton of anxiety as I felt I was about to approach. Then over time, my anxiety lessened as I focused on controlling my emotions as I “thought” about approaching an attractive girl I saw. However, I was never able to actually approach… at least not directly.
Unbelievable. One of the best days of my life. I actually texted a couple of my friends today, “I think day game just changed my life.” For any of you that don’t do direct day game, you MUST change. Not only does it get results, but it just makes you feel like a fucking man with courage, confidence, and a desire for beautiful women. Despite today being my first attempt at day game, I approached six or seven very attractive girls and got one number. And the best part is, I was amazed at how relaxed I was throughout the conversations and after getting blown out a few times. Proof that something is only a big deal if you let it become a big deal. However, despite being relaxed, I’m realizing that I need a lot of practice at conducting better conversation in these situations. Women are pretty surprised when you randomly stop them on the street; a confident man should be able to lead an interesting conversation under these circumstances. I love day game.
Unbelievable. One of the best days of my life. I actually texted a couple of my friends today, “I think day game just changed my life.” For any of you that don’t do direct day game, you MUST change. Not only does it get results, but it just makes you feel like a fucking man with courage, confidence, and a desire for beautiful women. Despite today being my first attempt at day game, I approached six or seven very attractive girls and got one number. And the best part is, I was amazed at how relaxed I was throughout the conversations and after getting blown out a few times. Proof that something is only a big deal if you let it become a big deal. I love day game.
Day Six: Tuesday, June 28th
More day game. Similar story to yesterday… I love this stuff. While I didn’t get any phone numbers today, I stopped a few of the most beautiful women I’ve ever seen in my life and delivered my opener with confidence. It just feels so damn amazing now that my words and actions are finally in alignment with my thoughts and desires. While I still have a ton to learn about making my daytime conversations as flowing and interesting as possible, I’m very pleased with my progress.
I’m also starting to notice the major differences between day game and night game. In fact, in some ways it seems completely different. In the day, you almost use no kino. At night, the most effective approach is to use quite a bit of varied kino. In the day, you have to come in at a controlled, relaxed energy level. At night, coming in at that energy level will make girls bored. Naturally, I think I am a little more relaxed so day game is jiving a little better than night game. In the day, there is a large focus on interesting, intriguing conversation. At night, you need much more attraction spikes. However, the more I learn, I notice that when night game is done right, you end up talking about many of the same topics as you would during the day. The biggest difference is that you have to periodically spike attraction harder during the night to keep the girl’s interest… especially if she’s with a group. However, during the day, lighter teasing can be sufficient if you’re connecting well with the girls. While I certainly have a lot to learn in each area, I’m excited about getting better at both. However, as I slowly start to progress I can see that the skills I build for night and day will almost be night and day different. I guess one big constant will be that any girl I get out from a daytime approach will need to be seduced at night. So nighttime skills are critical to building a well-rounded skill set. I’m excited to try to be as good at both as I can be.
Day Seven: Wednesday, June 29th
During the day today, I probably opened another eight girls and got one number. I’m definitely getting better at delivering strong, genuine openers during the day as well as leading smooth conversation. However, I need to continue to do a better of job of not just leading good conversation, but leading to topics I’m passionate about and I can show expertise over. While it’s easy to think about what you’d like to talk about when you’re preparing to go out, naturally leading the conversation to the topics you’re passionate about is tougher. When I’m talking to the girl, the first thing I’m thinking about it how do I keep the conversation fun and interesting – I want to make sure there are no boring lulls that makes her want to say, “well… I guess I’m going this way.” As I get better, I want to be maintaining this natural flow of conversation but mixing in topics that I know a lot about and show who I am. I’ve learned that most of this is about putting your best foot forward during the time you have. It’s not about made up stories and making yourself “look cool”. It’s really much more about actually living an interesting life and being skilled and showing other people the life you live.
Tonight was awesome. This was the first night all of us have gone out since Saturday. You could just feel the positive energy and the confidence after three days of day game. At any point in the night, you could look around the venue and catch Rockstars in sets all over the place; it was awesome to see. As for myself, I had great fun meeting a variety of people and taking my swing at a number of beautiful women. I got a number from a beautiful Interior Designer from Milan and a great conversation (but got the boyfriend stiff arm) with a sexy Private Equity Fund Manager whose family owns a major resort in Dubai. While I’m getting quite a bit better and getting conversation going, I’m noticing that I’m not doing a good enough job of making the girl chase me. Both Venture and Sterling both pointed out that I’m completely forgetting to use takeaways to bait these beautiful women into investing more into the conversation. I have no idea how I could have possibly noticed these things without their insight. Fuck I’m lucky to be here for these six weeks.
Day Eight: Thursday, June 30th
Today started out great when I met a cute girl on the street from Long Island during my run to the gym. Despite being completely sweaty, I decided, ‘fuck it, I’m talking to her’. Sure enough, the conversation went great and got her phone number. ANY TIME, ANY WHERE! Did I mention I love day game?!? I’m not sure if I’ll get around to following up with her (because we’re so busy) but I’m still very glad I approached. This is a skill set, like any other, that needs consistent practice. I’ve noticed this will be one of my main challenges – continuing to approach girls even when I’m not sure if I’ll be able to make anything from it. However, after reading my last sentence, I feel like I notice an inherent flaw. I need to truly believe that any interaction, anywhere, anytime, can noticeably change my life for the better. This is the perspective I would like to have. I realize it will take some work to get here but I’m willing to put in the effort.
In addition to getting her number, we also went shopping tonight and I had a fun conversation with a really cute girl at one of the shops and got her number as well. Man, that girl was cute. I hope I’m able to get her out.
More about my shopping experience – style makeovers are very hard. I was lucky enough to have Venture and Sterling roll with me to buy some new clothes. What I wasn’t ready for was them completely ripping into my current look. It’s weird, I’ve been turned down more times by women in the last week then almost the entire last year combined but somehow this dig into my style was at least ten times harder to deal with. It sounds ridiculous, but it took me literally 20 minutes to agree to buy a pair of boots they wanted me to get. In the end I just told them to tell me what I should buy and I’ll buy it. Reinventing yourself is not easy. I even acted like a bit of a dick during the process which I regret. I wish I could redo that moment so they knew just how much it meant to me that they were taking the time to help. Sorry for being a pain in the ass fellas; I promise my actions over the next few days will make up for it!
Day Nine: Friday, July 1st
Admittedly, I went to bed last night mentally exhausted. The whole makeover process makes you question a lot of your past. Have I been doing this all wrong my entire life? How would my interaction have been different had my style been different sooner? If my wardrobe was so bad, how was I able to have the decent successes I’ve had in the past? It’s funny how being ripped into that hard makes you wonder how I ever had any girl show interest. That being said, I woke up today with a refreshed feeling of excitement.
Sure enough, on my jog to the gym this morning I saw, and opened, two girls on the street. One had a boyfriend but the other, a beautiful blonde attorney, had just enough time before work to stop for a five minute conversation and give me her number. Yes!! I was pretty amazed after the fact how well it worked. However, I wonder sometimes how well these numbers will stick. In this instance, I texted her later today and I haven’t heard anything back. I’ll probably try her again soon, since she was really attractive, but I need to continue pushing getting better at really hitting deep conversation so that after I leave, she really wants to see me again. When you only have 5 minutes to talk to a girl, as with this busy attorney, you have to make it memorable outside of the sheer fact that you approached her during the day. For the most desired women, I can’t imagine just having balls is enough. You must also have great conversation skills in addition to being able to demonstrate a ton a value.
Tonight we headed back to the same rooftop bar from last week. I was really excited about tonight because it’s the first weekend night since our bootcamp and my first chance to unleash my new threads! I entered the club with great energy, ready to have some fun. It worked. I had more success with multiple beautiful women tonight than any other night in my life. I got three numbers from women I was really attracted to which is something I’ve never done before. And not only have I seen improvement within myself, but it seems as though the entire group of Rockstars are really kicking ass as well. You could feel the impact our group was having on the bar. So much fun.
Day Ten: Saturday, July 2nd
More shopping today. Nothing significant to report from day game. Tonight we through a pre party at one of the Rockstar’s lofts. It was actually a bit low key as I didn’t want to hit on any of the girls that the other guys brought and the girl I invited that said she was coming didn’t make it. Oh well. I’ll re-energize for tomorrow and hopefully meet some more in day game.
I realize after the party that I should have taken a more proactive approach to making conversation. Even if I wasn’t trying to attract the girls, I could have at least been more active in winging for them and simply having interesting conversation. I have a bad habit of when I don’t start strong, it’s very difficult for me to get going. I imagine most people feel this but I shouldn’t let myself use it as an excuse to have a poor night. Wouldn’t it be awesome to be the type of person who doesn’t let any specific interaction, or lack of interaction, affect their mood. However, like I said before, I’ve definitely been guilty of letting this get to me. Looking forward, I wonder what I can do differently to help prevent this spiral. Maybe I should be more open with some of the other guys and have a shared understand that our jobs are to help boost each other on down days. Or maybe I just need to build a strong enough foundation that no matter what happens I have enough confidence in myself, and I’m enough self entertained that I can find fun in any circumstance. While using others may not be a bad idea, I get the feeling that being self sufficient would certainly be more productive. You won’t always have people to count on to push you, especially when I go back home. If I’m not fully prepared to fend for myself and be my own biggest motivation, I sincerely risk falling back into old bad habits. I’ve worked so hard, and risked so much to fight out of those bad habits and get into this program. The last thing I want to do is take a step backward.
- 07-03-2011, 10:25 AM #12
We are no longer using the terms "wing" or "wingman." From now on, when assistance is needed in a social interaction the term "jabroni" will be used. For instance, "Zach, ya jabroni, let's go talk to those girls," or "Hey guys, this is my jabroni, Zach."Former #1 Instructor, now retired from infield instruction.
- 07-03-2011, 11:48 AM #13
Day 10 Sat
Still having issues with kino . Venture showed me how he kino escalates with women. I am still feeling a little weird/ phoney but I need to push through this stage. This will be my main focus for the next couple of weeks. We had a quick chat about the progression of the students and the importance of masculine dominance with interactions.
Never play a game of pool against Adam. Turns out his father makes pool cues and he has been playing pool since the age of 14. Basically he broke and sunk all the balls off the break our Aussie team did not sink any of our balls. In Australia if you don't sink any of all your balls during a game you are "pants". This means you need to run around the pool table with you pants down. It's great the Americans don't know this rule! This has happened to me once in Australia at my going away party I was wearing boxers at the time and when I ran around the table my Dick was hanging out. I was a bush Elephant running around the pool table.
The party was pretty laid back and chilled. There was a lot number of flakes from the day game sets but it was an interesting night. I went in to wing for Bullet with group of girls he brought to the party. The interaction went a little clunky and Sterling was pushing me and so was Venture to increase my Kino. The instructors are getting a little frustrated with my Kino progression. The feedback is that I am like a robot and my touching is not very sensual. The Men to Women ratio was a little too high. After that we spent most of the night talking too ourselves. Nick Hoss arrived on the scene and we decided to go head over to……………… 230 5th. It was late in the night and the bouncer was being a little bit of a Dick and would only let us in if purchase a bottle. It was 230 in the morning defiantly not worth it so we headed off
One thing I did learn is that I need to approach more Day Game sets to increase the number of people to the Party
Sunday will be a ripper
- 07-03-2011, 05:22 PM #14
Yankee (Zach) Blog --
Friday, July 1 (day 9/46)...wow the difference of one week...incredible strides that all Rockstars have made in a week and thankfully I am one of them because I can feel it 100%...where to begin, after number closing a few girls the day before in day and hired gun game, I had the chance to work on some text game under the guidance of some masterful instructors...couple things: 1) just getting the numbers and then the positive reinforcement experience of having flirty/playful texts has a huge effect on game -- I’m sure that sounds like I’m some tool who has never had girls before but I mean it in the sense that I’m in the process of a learning a skill and being in the early stages it has great reinforcement value to be successful; and 2) text game is a definite skill and one that I’m still struggling to get the mentality around but thankful to have these instructors helping me...Friday became another fashion day and the Rockstars are definitely pushing their boundaries on this front, fun to watch and wish I could find more styles that fit me properly -- one thing to note is the push NOT to peacock, was a fun trend back in the day but now the idea is to stick to differentiating yourself in a way that shows you are edgy but not stupid (for lack of better word)...so back to game...was texting with the hired gun and day game girl all day and moved the interactions from playful to hardcore flirting...funny thing happened when I was setting date up with girl I met in fashion store earlier in day, she tells me the place to meet is too far away, ask Nick Hoss for advice on how to respond and he tells me: just sit on it...couldn’t be truer words as 45mins later she replies: k well I guess I can come meet up for little while...when we met up it was on pretty quick, ended up having good time with her, she lived far away so couldn’t get her home but another positive reference point for me...went and met up with Rockstars later at 230 Fifth and we were killing it out there again, every single girl in that club (married/single/non-english speaker/whatever) got approached by multitudes of us, great night!
One thing worth mentioning was the disappointment the instructors had in us for the previous night...as most of us were tired, only 2 of 7 Rockstars went out that night while there were five instructors out - a couple of whom had worked long days already...the point of the story was this: you can essentially do whatever you want on this program but 1) don’t forget the instructors are all doing this for your sake free of charge so respect that; and, 2) you are only going to get what you put in and being that it’s six weeks suck it up and get out there and rest when it’s over...this is an incredible program and we are F’in lucky to be in it...the instructors are absolutely awesome people and we are super thankful for everything they have sacrificed to help us out...Venture is one of the coolest guys I’ve ever met, it’s funny that pickup is the backdrop for this program b/c this guy is in it to make us all happier and more successful people in all areas of our life, he cares so much about our success and you can feel it in every interaction with him...Sterling is a theory genius, it’s funny to say that because his game is all focused on being non-gamey and natural but in reality the only way to get there is to know the theory inside and out and he has it down...Nick Hoss is the biggest jabroni in the league (inside joke but love that dude)...people like Bullet who is quickly becoming the Godfather of PR and Laurent give us all great energy and motivation to push forward, I can’t say enough about those two.
Saturday, July 2 (day 10/46)...so back at it again after a good night and gearing up for big night at Khan’s Soho loft...we all were instructed to bring 3-5 girls to the party and we stocked up big for it...in my case I had the hired gun bringing two friends but then one of my night game sets (who had run cold but got her hot off some awesome text game through Laurent) and day game set with a few sisters wanted to come...so logistically I didn’t want to bring the girl who I’d already made deep inroads with -- some might argue you can get pre-selection from having other girls there but didn’t seem right move with other girls coming...it’s a tricky conundrum as you want to be able to maximize your gains but at the same time you are also trying to minimize your losses, I can’t even be sure my mind is guiding me in the right direction at times...as it worked out one of the two sets of girls came with her sister, ended up passing her off to someone else...will admit that I went for too much of the “party” last night and drank more than I should have...it wasn’t because I had any type of anxiety, it was more based on my enjoyment of having a drink but for whatever reason (I don’t usually drink red bull-vodka), I definitely consumed too much...couple of the guys talked with me about it and I’m going to be laying off the sauce for a bit...reason being is that I want to get the most I can out of this experience and at the end of the day I don’t need the stuff and it has been used as a crutch by me before coming on this Rockstar journey so why not prove to myself how needless it is...it’s worth noting that my over indulgence was purely me enjoying myself and not a matter of dealing with approach anxiety like I had done a week earlier..I have so much respect for this program and the sacrifice all involved are making so just a small sacrifice on my part to help make the whole better...the mind works in tricky ways, notably by trying to protect itself from both physical and mental pain with the intent of limiting duress.
- 07-03-2011, 06:07 PM #15
Jake's Rockstar Blog
Sitting at the airport thinking about whatís in store for me over the next 2 months... Lots of nerves, butterflies in my stomach imagining the awkward situations that I will be pushing myself into. I know I need to give it my all and commit to the process to get the results that I desire. The following is my statement of what I want out of Project Rockstar 2011 which was sent to Venture recently;
ďAfter many failures successes in my life, I am happy with how I am progressing in all areas other than one. This is why I sought out Lovesystems; although I have had reasonable success with women in the past, I always felt like I wasnít getting the women that I know I truly deserve.
I see this as the missing piece of the puzzle that is my life; Iíve already realised (through bootcamps/books) how much this can change my life in all areas for the better. Project Rockstar to me, although primarily pick up focussed, is so much more than that. I want this program to help me find within myself that I am capable of so much more than I previously realised.
I want to smash limiting beliefs and discover internally what is holding me back; and ultimately learn to love myself more.Ē
I have been sitting at the airport for quite some time. Unfortunately there have been some huge flight delays due to a volcanic ash cloud. At this point it looks like I will be at least a day or two late for Project Rockstar kickoff. Not very happy about that; makes me feel like I am really starting from behind...
Day 1 Ė Thursday - 23/06/11
I ended up being able to change my flights to get to New York (almost) on time. The total journey ended up taking around 35hrs; I went from Adelaide (my home town) to Sydney, to Taipei, to Osaka, and finally to New York.
Exhausted and barely rested, I finally arrive in Manhattan and get to the apartment where we are all meeting. The day officially started at 2:00pm; I arrive at around 4:30pm and am greeted by a room full of guys that are to be my family for the next 7 weeks.
We all introduce ourselves to each other and tell our stories about how we got to this point; I was so impressed by the quality of the rest of the Rockstars. They are all the kind of people I always seek friendship with, but do not meet regularly. It is amazing to see so much talent and life experience in one room; it is an absolute pleasure to be involved in this program.
Venture then gives his introduction and starts out with a lot of awesome information and his thoughts/views on inner game. He gave us some great information about how we all can easily self-sabotage ourselves if we donít gain control over our hard wired Ďreptilianí emotions; Everything that we are going to be learning is just a skill set that anyone can master; we just need to take out the emotion and focus on the process. We can only control the controllables; we never can know exactly what is coming next, but we can apply the math; the things we cannot control, do not matter! Learn to fail, but fail forward; learn from the experience and increase your game as a result. There is no failure, only feedback. Comfort is the death of growth. Venture stressed the importance of not just dabbling in this, but committing ourselves completely to change for the better.
At night, we went out for dinner and met a number of other instructors/mentors/acís. They all wanted to see how we were in-field, so after dinner we did some field work to show them what we have. Unfortunately the venue was a tough one (like a big frat house) but Ė no excuses! - So we ploughed through and created some good interactions by the end of the night.
What a great start to the program. I walked away from the first meeting very inspired from the words of Venture, Nick Hoss, and Laurent. The excitement and nervousness is building more and more as I think about our coming days.
Day 2 Ė Friday - 24/06/11
Today we attended the first day of a 3 day bootcamp with Mr.M, and a number of others. I have attended 2 bootcamps in the past, but I was really excited to hear it from some other instructors Ė there is always something new to learn from everyoneís different styles of training and their thoughts on game.
We sat down with all the students of the bootcamp and listened eagerly as we went through all of the stages of the emotional progression model. Mr.M explained the importance of developing a 6th sense for where we are in the model, and just because we might be in one stage, doesnít mean that we can forget the earlier stage/s and progress linearly.
Future went through his big 10 rules; 1 Have fun. 2 You will be rejected. 3 Talk to girls. 4 Keep talking. 5 No Judgement. 6 Break your wrist taking notes. 7 Baby steps. 8 Donít ask permission. 9 Everything is right and going to plan. 10 Boundaries; discover, donít determine.
It was a great day to be involved in Ė seeing some renowned instructors providing their own experiences and teaching styles. My mind is pretty loaded with information by dayís end; definitely need some quiet time to read my notes and digest all of this; and prepare for going out tonight...
Day 3 Ė Saturday Ė 25/06/11
Second day of 3 day bootcamp. First we de-briefed the previous night. I was relatively happy with how I went the night before; had some great interactions and managed to create a huge amount of attraction with a very attractive (married) girl. In hindsight I didnít escalate physically enough; which is something that I am not used to and not entirely comfortable with at this point. I also didnít sexualise the conversation enough, and should have added some statements of intent. I still managed to get her phone number. My worst set would be the first set I opened for the night (which seems to be the case often); it just seemed quite awkward. However, looking back on the interaction I realised that the awkwardness was just cultivated in my head.
What I want and need to work on judging from last night; opening up sets from the beginning of the night and not over thinking things, unabashed physical escalation, pushing and discovering boundaries.
Today we are in Khans apartment in Soho for the seminar. He kindly offered it to the group to use which has been fantastic; he has been extremely hospitable and we all really appreciate it. Sterling kicks off the seminar; going into Attraction and attraction switches. He has a very methodical style of teaching and has broken everything down into easily digestible teaching methods. We then worked on trigger words and did some group exercises to get ourselves used to identifying and relating/digging deeper. We then went through mastery topics and how we all need to get a handle on these, and be able to discuss them with women whilst highlighting the emotional highs and lows; taking them on an emotional journey.
Mr.M and Venture then discussed sexual intent including social touching, intimate social touching, kiss closing etc. Venture has a very impressive style of game, and goes through what he feels are the most prominent aspects of his sexual intent; being completely congruent with what you are saying/doing, being non judgemental toward the women and never assuming anything. Building sexual tension and having an abundance mindset; because the truth is that there are an endless supply of beautiful women on this planet. He also went through the importance of take aways; showing that you are willing to walk away and risk losing the girl is such an attractive quality to women, and goes hand in hand with the abundance mindset. Venture stressed the importance of being primal in our intent, and never being ashamed of our sexual desires toward beautiful women. We went through sexual hoops, role plays, teasing, cold reads, push/pull, and some lines/routines. However, something that has been made very clear is that we will be given a few lines and routines, but we are never going to rely on them, and will soon be able to interact fluidly without any aid of lines and routines.
Day 4 Ė Sunday Ė 26/06/11
Third and final day of three day bootcamp. Venture discusses mindset and the importance of setting rules for ourselves; making sure that they begin with small achievable goals. For example, his rule is that he has to approach any hot girl that he is attracted to; and although the end goal may be for a number/kiss/lay, that is not the rule; simply open and work from there. This way he is living by his rules and what happens beyond the open is irrelevant. I have had a lot of trouble with this concept in the past; I am generally very results orientated, so if I am not achieving a difficult goal, I find it hard to acknowledge or celebrate what I HAVE achieved and the progress that I HAVE made. I need to stop thinking about the end result so much, and celebrate all of my successes.
Mr.M went though some phone and text game, along with date theory which was some great stuff. To anyone reading - I definitely recommend getting his phone and text game book if you do not have it already. Sterling then followed on from the previous day, focussing on qualification; he has some great models that he has developed that really help us understand the ideals of qualification. Also discussed was qualifying attraction which should be thrown into the interaction to keep the right frame and to bookmark the attraction that has been created. Qualifying hoops, and different types of qualification were also discussed.
Future then went through comfort, noting that comfort is initially the absence of discomfort; followed by making her experience the widest range of emotions (again without discomfort). We were taught how to build solid rapport with people; everyone, not just limited to women we are interested in. When talking with women we need to focus on the why not the facts, the emotional weight; we were taught how to relate and bond over emotional experiences. We learned how to demonstrate sexual non judgement toward women, staying out of the friend zone, and other important comfort strategies like moving the woman, time lengths to seduction, conspiracy, and showing personal vulnerability whilst demonstrating strength. We wrapped up the final day of bootcamp with seduction techniques including many different ways to arouse women through touch, breath, gaze etc. Also the importance of continually escalating and not questioning what a woman is saying, simply agreeing with them.
This was a sensational bootcamp; the knowledge present in the room was phenomenal. We have been so fortunate to have attended this bootcamp; I have never learned so much in three days! I am very grateful to Mr. M for letting us sit in on his bootcamp, and extremely appreciative of all the other instructors that gave us their time. A very inspiring three days, and an awesome kick-start for the rest of the Rockstar program.
Day 5 Ė Monday 27/06/11
First day of day game with Nick Hoss. This is going to be a really exciting day Ė I have never done day game before so am very nervous for what this week will bring. Nick begins by going through all of the reasons that will come up in our heads of why not to do what we are about to do. He gives us some great tips for overcoming our own thoughts that hold us back. If our delivery is good, it is instantly attractive to a woman because it is extremely rare that a guy has the confidence to actually approach a woman on the street. The most important things for us to be attractive to women are; appearance, confidence and humour (good emotions), social intelligence, cold reads, having passion and purpose, pre-selection, and wealth. The more of these that we can demonstrate in our interactions, the more successful they will be.
End of the day; We just went out for our first day game day today; a very interesting experience. Although I did well, I donít feel like I achieved what I should have. I feel like I should have ended the day with a lot more solid interactions and number closes (although I did manage a couple) with beautiful women that I would subsequently date. I guess I need to just remember that I will improve as long as I commit to the process. I really feel that I wasnít as committed as I should have been to the interactions; I will change this immediately.
Day 6 Ė Tuesday 28/06/11
More day game. Today we delve further into the day game interaction theories and go beyond just opening; rather focussing on expanding the conversation and attracting the women that we interact with. We went through the steps of the process form a day game point of view and how it differs vastly from night game; lower tempo, less games/teasing, slower pace attraction spikes, and finding commonalities with the women and expanding on them in conversation (qualify and relate).
Great day doing day game today. Some great results and one 10+ minute interaction with a really attractive blonde girl which resulted in a solid number close; I hope to meet up with her for a date soon. At the end of the day I am feeling like my mind is starting to expand, my limiting beliefs are shrinking, the possibilities are emerging, I can feel myself confidence increasing. Very excited for tomorrow.
Day 7 Ė Wednesday 29/06/11
Today we continued day game. We went deep into mastery topics and having conversations of value that will show the women that we meet who we are and why they should be attracted to us. We did some exercises between us all to practice qualifying and relating into our mastery topics.
I had a great day doing day game today, several great interactions and a number closes. In particular I had a couple of sets that went for 10+ minutes, one where a girl was almost begging for my phone number by the end of it. Itís a pretty amazing feeling and builds great reference experiences of what is really possible.
Thoughts at the end of week one; what an amazing experience this has been and will be. Once I return to Ďnormalí life, it is going to be easy to let myself slip back in to a Ďnormalí routine that will be a sure path to mediocrity. That is a pain that I cannot feel; I absolutely can and will be the person that I dream I want to be Ė I am walking the path already; I just need to ensure that I am constantly committed. I am beginning to see the possibilities and realise that they are going to soon become my realities. This both excites and scares me. In the past I have been holding back what is possible for me because of what is in my head; as I shift these beliefs I change for the better.
- 07-03-2011, 06:52 PM #16
Day 1: Have been excited to meet the Rockstars and instructors. Met at Venture's place for introductions and some inner-game. The Rockstars all seem like good guys, which is a relief (though I did not doubt they would be) and other than hearing their different backgrounds and beginning the bonding process, I was most impressed by Venture's story of how he had only started learning game about a year ago and he's gotten this good so fast. He's put a lot of time into it, but its still quite encouraging to know how fast one can improve. To be honest, I was curious to see him in action, because a part of me doubted he could be that good. Didn't take long for him to put those doubts to rest. That very night, we went to Brother Jimmy's (the kind of place I tend to avoid like the plague, as it's totally a college frat scene and just not my type of venue) and while we were seated at the back room to eat some food, I observed Venture immediately start building attraction with the hot waitress. He was teasing her, ignoring her, then holding her hand and sitting her in his lap... it was an impressive display and I was surprised to see how fast he could escalate. I also got to meet the rest of the instructors there, some that I already knew and others I had heard of, such as Mr. M. They were all charismatic and confident.
Khan's Project Rockstar Blog
I bounced early from Brother Jimmy's... I wasn't feeling it at all, and after a pretty annoying interaction with two girls and then finding I could barely move because of the crowd, I decided this was not for me.
Day 2: We get to tag along to Mr. M's New York Bootcamp. Took a bunch of notes as several instructors taught different areas of theory, and then prepared to go out to 230 5th, a rooftop bar. Now, we are a bit constrained when it comes to what type of venue we can go to , as we are rolling with a lot of guys. This is not the best venue in the city, and this night was probably the worst I have ever seen it. There was some doctor convention and I felt like I was in a Bollywood movie. I had a difficult time finding a girl I was actually attracted to, but in the end I decided this is more an exercise and better to go through the motions with some average girl, then not to do it at all. So, I started talking to this girl, who was probably only a 6, but turned out to have a pretty adventurous/fun personality. I told her she needed to prove she had balls, if she wanted to hang with me, and next thing I know, she is pinching random people's butts and running off, making it look like it was me - hahaha, props to her. She also scaled a wall, until a bouncer told her to stop (good thing, because it is a 50 story drop from the edge). She was quite amusing, but I wasn't that into her still, and that really seemed to help with her chasing me, and we were making out in a hidden area before long. I took her home.
Day 3: Debrief of the night before and more instruction. Let me just say that the instructors are all awesome and so focused on getting everyone to improve. They all have different styles and different strengths. My favorite so far is probably Future, because the guy is fucking hilarious and extremely quick witted, but they are all really good. Sterling is a natural teacher. His deep knowledge of theory is matched by his ability to teach and also identify what each student is doing wrong. Venture is a beast when it comes to sexual intent/escalation. Mr. M is just an all-round pro.
We go out again to 230 5th. It's MUCH better this time, with a more diverse and attractive crowd. We get a table in the VIP section, and other than one of the bouncers continually harassing our group (for no good reason) it's all good. I talk to a bunch of girls I quite like, and can already feel myself getting more comfortable with opening. I open a large 5 set, getting friendly with the big guy, and doing shots with them. After that, I tell them I'm going to talk to their friend for a bit, because she is adorable, and they all give me the green light, so I move her and we talk for a while. I get her number and continue talking, till I have to go back to the table, where we are having problems with the bouncer. At this point, another girl I knew from a few weeks ago has arrived at the bar, to go home with me (that's cheating, I know, but this girl is easily 8/9 and into me, and I don't want to set her free just yet). That's when things got messy and the bouncer not only threw me out of the club (because I got the manager to talk to him and stop messing with us, and he couldn't take it when I told him "I guess we figured out who's in charge, didn't we?") Two of them took me out of a side door, and one choked me while the other punched me in the stomach repeatedly. It was insane... like one of those Vegas Casino movies where they catch someone cheating and beat the shit out of him! I called the police, while in the elevator and could see the bouncer starting to regret what he did. I also managed to head-butt him twice, giving him a bloody lip. That felt pretty good.
How to turn a bad situation into a good one: I told the police what happened. Then the ambulance came to check on my throat, as I was already losing my voice from the choking. After all of that, the manager took me back up to talk to the owner, who told me he reviewed the situation and that I was completely in the right. The guy got fired, lost his license, and I was reimbursed for my ripped shirt, the bill for the table that night, not to mention we got comped for two nights there the following week. Nice! The girl that came to meet me stayed with me throughout the whole incident and came home with me.
Day 4: I missed most of this day. I was at the emergence room, trying to get a report from the hospital that proved there was damage to my throat from the assault, in case I needed it later if the club did not live up to their side of the deal reached the night before. I had also completely lost my voice, and couldn't speak.
Day 5: Day Game theory with Nick Hoss, and then out on the streets practice what we had learned. Nick is a great teacher too... he's a really down to earth and likable guy, and he holds some serious knowledge, which he communicates in a totally natural and friendly manner.
I've never done any day game before. I have to admit, it seems quite awkward to be stopping complete strangers in the street and trying to get their numbers. I would usually never do this, but since we all promised to hand over the remote to the instructors and do whatever they say, I found myself approaching a hot girl and as soon as I touched her on the arm, she turned around shocked, told me not to touch her and speeded away. Wow... great start. I felt like a real creep. Thanks lady. I approached a few more, and while none were as bad as that first approach, I also wasn't really getting anything good either, till the last few I did, where the girls were actually pleased with the interaction, but had boyfriends or were in a hurry etc.
Day 6: More day game theory, and then more in-field. I have to take quickly give props to Bullet and Laurent, who are the other coaches that are going to be with us on this journey. Laurent was a Rockstar last year and Bullet is fucking 50 years old and yet still gets amazing results. I saw him open a beautiful girl on the street (easily an 8/9) and he made it look easy. Watching him and Laurent, and listening to their feedback on what I was doing, really helped to calibrate my approach and I was already getting better results, though I still didn't get anything solid on this 2nd day.
Day 7: More day game, but I made a serious break-through today. I got either a number or e-mail from 4 out of 5 that I approached today, and they were all seriously cute. I think these positive reference points are really going to help with my calibration going forward, and I expect it to be very helpful for night game also. I owe this success to Bullet and Laurent, who (as I mentioned from the day before) really helped with feedback but also doing live demos right in front of us. They are fearless and I can feel myself getting there also. I won't ever forget this day. All the guys went out that night, but I had a date, so I did my own thing with her.
Day 8: More day game today, but it became apparent that some of the Rockstars could use some help with fashion and style. Venture pointed out that some people just did not look the part the night before. Luckily, this is something I'm good at, and given that I know soho quite well, since I live there, I took the rockstars to some cool shops. By now, everyone is running game at every opportunity, and Zach gets the number of the lady that was helping us at Hugo Boss. We then went to Paul Smith and some other stores. I want to say I'm so proud of Edgar, because he bought some really cool, edgy stuff, on the back of my advice, and he looks like a real rockstar now. I'm actually a bit jealous! Nick also went out of his comfort zone and bought some cool stuff. I'm looking forward to seeing them wear it and find out what kind of feedback they are getting. I went out with the guys to the standard beer garden this time, but most of the guys were tired and didn't make it. The beer garden was not the best place to run game, as I found the crowd rather guarded and hostile. Still, I managed to open a number of sets and stay in for a good length of time.
Day 9: Friday... Venture and the instructors gave us feedback. Some people got an earful, and I was relieved to avoid that. I still have not written any blogs... if I don't do it by Sunday, I'm going to get in trouble. We did a little more day game and more shopping for some of the Rockstars. I don't want to sound like a broke record, but my level of respect for the instructors keeps soaring to new heights, especially Venture.... the guy is a fucking machine, and I regret any doubts I may have had. He is a model for just what can be achieved with the right kind of focus and practice. Bullet also proves his worth ever time he opens his mouth. We're going out to 230 5th again tonight, but this time we are comped (as a result of last week).
We get there, and the best table is setup for me and 12 guests. The vibe is amazing, with so many hot girls, and I feel great. I'm immediately in sets and have girls coming back to our table. I look around, and we literally own that place. After day game, I have zero approach anxiety, and everything opens so easily. I see a girl, easily a 9 and perhaps the hottest in the club, and after a brief hesitation I open her direct and get an incredibly friendly response. Unfortunately, she is on her way out, and visiting from Germany and flying out in 2 days, so not worth chasing, but that experience will teach me that hottest girls can also respond positively and I have no need to hesitate just because the girl is a 9 or a 10. I took 4 numbers that night. I made out with the cutest little redhead at my table, before her friends dragged her away. I built a lot of attraction and escalated, showing my intent, with everyone I talked to, and I realized that when you start getting good at game, logistics is what can really fuck you up (friends taking away your girl, or them having to leave etc.) We took some girls back to my place for an after-party, and it was a great time. I hooked up with a really hot blonde in the bathroom, and she said she wanted to spend the night, but then her friend intervened and made her go home. I found out later she is living with her boyfriend of 3 years... whoops! The night was a huge success, and I could see that all the rockstars have improved so much. If this is the result for 1 week, I can't imagine where we will be by the end of the program!
Day 10: Today, we are having a pre-party at my place. Everyone has invited girls that they have met over the last week, and we go and stock up on drinks (champagne, vodka and mixers) to serve later that night. Venture and Sterling give us all props for just how good we have gotten, and everyone is feeling great. The plan is to party for a bit, then take the girls to a high-end club. People start coming around 9, and the girl I met the previous week (that I have been texting with) shows up looking smoking hot. Easily the hottest girl there, till Venture's girl shows up, and then I'd say it would be a mater of opinion. So, I'm pretty excited to be talking to this girl until the other girl I have been texting shows up. Then, 2 more, and I'm also the host... OK, I'm going to need some help from my wings, which they provide. There is an unsung hero amongst us. Alex... he is not an instructor (perhaps too good looking to be one) but his game is tight and he is an incredible wing. Thanks Alex... together with Sterling, these two are unstoppable - I love these guys!
Some guys are doing better than others. I won't comment here, but follow their blogs for more details. We are still in week 1 (kinda) so there is a lot of time to improve and I have faith in all of my fellow rockstars, that have already improved immensely. Some of us go to SL, a high-end club, and a few end up doing something else, as they don't have the right ratio. The club is full of hot girls, but I'm into my girl and start working on push/pull, takeaways, escalation etc. My opening and attraction is pretty strong now, so these are the areas where I need work. We make out after dancing, and when she leaves, she gives me a big hug. When she leaves, I open a few gils in the club but I'm pretty tired from the week and head home a little after 3am, satisfied with the night.
- 07-04-2011, 09:20 AM #17
Yo, Alpine here:
Day 10 (July 2):
So the plan for the night is to throw a bit of a house party and then roll out to some clubs. I know day game is my weakness at the moment, there's a lot I need to practice and learn. And...fuck, there's too much to do and to little time. I decided to find an extra 3-4 hours to day game by myself this week. It's going better, starting to hook a bit, but I'm still mostly going indirect.
The evening was the low point so far for me...yuck. Wasn't really feeling any of the girls that showed up except for Khan's (sorry buddy! good talk) and the two that had told me they were coming instead tried to get me to come meet up elsewhere. I'm still not entirely sure if its cool for us to leave and what not, but I decided to stay and hoped things would work out. Unfortunately, I ended up not going to the club with Venture , the other instructors, and a few of the guys. Nick Hoss showed up and we tried to go to 230 5th, we had some lovely logistical issues and they told us the only way we were getting in is if we bought a bottle. Ah well, gonna have a lousy night like that every once ina while. The plus is that I was able to go climbing at the gym in the morning which really helped me stay positive throughout the day.
Day 11 (July 3):
This will officially be called Rockstar bonding day. We ended up being grilled by instructors and took several hours to talk in the afternoon before heading back to the rooftop. We decided to have goals for each other, and to work on what the instructors perceived as issues we were having as individuals and a group. I think we are starting to feel like a team, like we can hold each other up. I’ve been hesitant to give advice to any of the other rockstars since I was ripped apart for doing so before, but I think I’ll start opening up some when I feel I have a piece of advice that will help one of the other guys or something for them to read.
The club tonight was pretty dead, overall quite slow so I practiced opening some seated sets and ejecting early. I'm trying to get comfortable having "hot chick" mentality...being willing to just leave a set if I'm bored or see someone I want to approach. I thought I was going to close, but ended up having some logistical issues that hopefully will be sorted out today.
When I got home I had my 2nd major realization:
I need to really, really push myself. Be willing to leave any set any time and force myself to talk to the hottest girls, even when they are surrounded by 2 or 3 guys. Fuck it.
- 07-04-2011, 05:16 PM #18
Day Eleven: Sunday, July 3rd
Today was a little slow. We received some individual feedback from the instructors and had a fun conversation just amongst the Rockstars. With the seven Rockstars living in three different parts of town, weíve noticed itís been tough really getting to know each other since weíre always on the go. Today was a good step towards becoming a stronger team.
We went out tonight to the same rooftop venue weíve been a few times before. Unlike most nights, however, tonight was quite slow. While I opened quite a few girls (including seated sets which Iíve been working on), I only opened one girl that I was genuinely attracted to. Since that set didnít hook for me, I essentially spent the entire night in conversations with women I was only seeing as friends. However, Iím starting to notice that on nights like this, I need a different attitude. So much of what the instructors are teaching us is about developing the right automatic responses. For example, theyíve been teaching a lot about rapid physical escalation in the club. If Iím only willing to physically escalate with girls Iím really attracted to, then Iím dramatically limiting my practice reps on nights like tonight. I need to change this mindset and treat each night more as practice. I wonder if the reason for this is something deeper. Why is it that I feel sexually attracted to a smaller percentage of girls? Maybe I just need to open my horizons a bit and be a little more adventurous. Or maybe I need to accept my perspective for what it is and be more assertive in going after every hot girl I see. While Iíve done an ok job of approaching every hot girl, Iíve certainly side-stepped plenty. Especially those that were sitting at tables or were out with guys. Especially in social settings like night clubs, I donít see any reason why I can start approaching more mixed sets and seated sets. If people didnít want to talk to anyone, why would they come out? And even if that was the case, who cares? I need to hit a point where my state of mind isnít adversely affected by others.
- 07-04-2011, 05:29 PM #19
Tonight I'm bringing routines back like it's 2005!Former #1 Instructor, now retired from infield instruction.
- 07-04-2011, 11:39 PM #20
The Rockstars are killing it. Have literally never seen such fast improvement in such a short amount of time. There is really something very special going on in this particular Rockstar class, and I'm sure all the participants/instructors agree.
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