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    miaddict,

    The french is killing me so lets speak some english if all are able, ok?

    Now, what I have discovered about french girls through experience in different countries is that they have a much, much, muuuch lower defense mechanism than American girls, around whom the MM was predominantly tailored. This does not mean that you can just go in at a straight angle and start gaming them without any negs or false time constraints, but pretty close.

    If they think you are good looking/look cool then their attraction will actually MAKE them comfortable with you, resulting in heavy IOI's and immediate value in the eyes of her social group (though you don't really care, unless you are in high school). Conversation should not be deep (i.e. don't talk to her about how your grandmother just died), and should focus on the target immediately after group introductions have been made--though even this is not absolutely necessary. In the handbook, we are advised to establish rapport with the social group of the HB/target, which acts as social credit when we eventually ask the group to pull her away.
    --> In the French field, doing the same thing will irreparably lower your value with the girl as well as the group, because French culture sees this behavior as cowardly and a sign of weakness. Be direct.

    If they do not think you are good looking, then you approaching them out of the cold will not only cause them to flake, but they will flake rudely. French women are particularly sharp when it comes to subtleties, and will react the same even with the trademark 'indirect' approach made famous by the Mystery Method--if she does not first approve of the appearance of the male. Conversely, a good looking male--or rather, a male she perceives as good-looking--can get away with the most basic of fuck-ups in the history of pick up game.

    This includes: -grabbing her ass
    -telling her you think she's hot
    -telling her what you would like to do with her later, etc.

    French girls have a tendency to scan the perimeter just like guys do--but they do it as a group, turning it almost into a game to pass the time until something interesting happens. I have been in the middle of these groups at different resorts and vacations throughout the world, and this is uniform.

    The solution: Peacock HEAVY. Almost to the point of looking stupid. When you enter the venue, and are having a good time, the target's group will notice you and become instantly intrigued. When you see them smiling, that's when you move in. After comfort is confirmed, move straight to S1. She will love you for it.


    Z-D-P-B-MC-B-S.

    Versailles-The Effortless Master. Mystery Method Enemy Number One.

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    miaddict,

    The french is killing me so lets speak some english if all are able, ok?

    Now, what I have discovered about french girls through experience in different countries is that they have a much, much, muuuch weaker defense mechanism than American girls, around whom the MM was predominantly tailored. This does not mean that you can just go in at a straight angle and start gaming them without any negs or false time constraints, but pretty close.

    If they think you are good looking/look cool then their attraction will actually MAKE them comfortable with you, resulting in heavy IOI's and immediate value in the eyes of her social group (though you don't really care, unless you are in high school). Conversation should not be deep (i.e. don't talk to her about how your grandmother just died), and should focus exclusively on the target immediately after group introductions have been made--though even that is not absolutely necessary. In the handbook, we are advised to establish rapport with the social group of the HB/target, which acts as social credit when we eventually ask the group to pull her away.
    --> In the French field, doing the same thing will irreparably lower your value with the girl as well as the group, because French culture sees this behavior as cowardly and a sign of weakness. Be direct.

    If they do not think you are good looking, then you approaching them out of the cold will not only cause them to flake, but they will flake rudely. French women are particularly sharp when it comes to subtleties, and will react the same even with the trademark 'indirect' approach made famous by the Mystery Method--if she does not first approve of the appearance of the male. Conversely, a good looking male--or rather, a male she perceives as good-looking--can get away with the most basic of fuck-ups in the history of pick up game.

    This includes: -grabbing her ass
    -telling her you think she's hot
    -telling her what you would like to do with her later, etc.

    French girls have a tendency to scan the perimeter just like guys do--but they do it as a group, turning it almost into a game to pass the time until something interesting happens. I have been in the middle of these groups at different resorts and vacations throughout the world, and this is uniform.

    The solution: Peacock HEAVY. Almost to the point of looking stupid. When you enter the venue, and are having a good time, the target's group will notice you and become instantly intrigued. When you see them smiling, that's when you move in. After comfort is confirmed, move straight to S1. She will love you for it.

    Plan B: Have someone she knows introduce you to her. If this is a good friend, she will be polite to you all night even if you have god-awful game out of respect to that person. C'est la vie..
    Z-D-P-B-MC-B-S.

    Versailles-The Effortless Master. Mystery Method Enemy Number One.

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    En quoi la blague du pingouin n'est pas marrante au Québec ?

    En Europe elle marrante parce que le mot pingouin est marrant en lui-même, le fait que le pingouin porte un bonnet est hilarant et "mignon" car c'est une sorte d'anthropomorphisme qui le rend encore plus attachant.

    D'autre exemple de mots marrants en eux-mêmes en français européen : blaireau.
    En anglais : badger = pas marrant du tout
    En français-ca = aucune idée

    En dehors des considérations linguistiques, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait tant de différences d'humour entre les cultures, les mécanismes sont les mêmes. Enfin, prouvez moi le contraire, je ne demande que ça.

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    Nah, je ne crois pas que le truc du pinguoin fonctionnerais au Quebec. J'ai deja essayé le truc du: J'ai perdu mon petit chien (dans un bar!!!,) et cela ne passe pas du tout. Le type de réaction est du genre: Bon, en voilà un autre qui ne pense qu'à baiser et qui ne s'assume pas.

    Pour ma part, le mot d'orde au Quebec est: Passer pour un sans coeur ca passe mais passer pour un pas de couille, ca ne passe PAS DU TOUT.

    Pour ce qui est du mot brat, j'utilise l'expression "Tu est comme ma petite soeur gossante" ou bien je vais lire les lignes de sa main et dire:

    Moi - J'en étais certain
    Elle - Quoi, quoi?
    Moi - Tu voit cette ligne?
    Elle - Oui, oui.
    Moi - Ben c'est la ligne de la petite pisseuse gossante!

    Demonstration de grosses couilles, claque sur l'épaule (ou le ventre) assurée suivit d'un : Maudit épais ou espèce de moron.

    Pour les openers, j'ai l'énorme chance d'être très grand et d'avoir une belle gueule donc je me fais toujours regarder énormément même si je suis toujours habillé de facon conservatrice mais de bon gout. J'ai donc deux openers, pas d'histoires ou quoi que ce soit, deux phrases directes: 1 - Merci pour le compliment (après avoir établi un long contact visuel.) 2 - As-tu un copain? Oui? Bonne soirée (elle se retrouvera comme pas hasard dans mon champ rapproché peu de temps après.) Non? Bonsoir, moi c'est Pitt... Brad Pitt. Elle - lol Tu ne lui ressemble pas du tout. Moi - Merde, moi qui voulait passer incognito.

    Pour les Américaines (en territoire Américain,) seulement besoin de parler Francais et elles vous aborderont en demandant quel est cette langue qu'elles ne connaissent pas.

    Les Francaises, j'ai peu d'expérience avec elles mais parler avec leur vocabulaire et en utilisant leurs expressions tout en conservant l'accent Quebecois m'as toujours donné des bons compliments et des IOI majeurs. Wow, tu ne parle vraiment pas comme les autres Quebecois blah, blah, blah!

    Je pourrais en raconter encore beaucoup je crois mais cela tournerais en veritable roman. lol

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    Versailles, je ne suis pas entièrement d'accord avec toi sur le fait que les HB ont un bitch-shield plus faible.
    In fact, I'd say it's much higher! (This might only be for parisian girls tho)
    A neg is far more powerful in Paris than it is in the UK or US, direct approach is quite difficult in contrast.
    En fait, il faut quasiment suivre le MM, mais au lieu de se concentrer sur les amis de la HB (en la neggant et l'ignorant), il faut se concentrer sur le groupe entier. French HBs love competition, treating them like their friends is a positive thing.

    Cependant, tu as parfaitement raison pour les IOIs et les crash and burn. French HBs tend to go towards extremes in behavior (they'll either seriously check you out and always hang around you (to the point you may think they're stalking), or they'll rudely ignore you.
    "Je fume, je bois, je baise. Triangle équilatéral" Serge Gainsbourg, french songwriter

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    Salut toute le monde!

    Ces't vraiment un interesant thread ici!

    Au sujet des gars francais, a mon avis ils sont des bon seducers - mieux que les anglais (en general, je suis un exception )

    Au sujet de l'humor (sp?) francaise, je y pense d'etre plus expressive. Au contraire, le humor Quebecoise est plus douce et plus refinee. Fin, c'est mon avis autour des filmes Francaises et Quebecois.

    Au sujet des filles francaises, a mon avis elles sont plus facile a seduir mais elles sont aussi plus malinge. Elles sait un 'player' type immedietment! Les filles Europeen sont aussi facile a seduire (le sexe est une chose normal) mais dans les payes du nord (allemagne, nederlands etc.) les filles sont moins douee et les gars tres direct avec le game.

    Les americains sont un type tellement nouveau pour moi, tout le monde ici est fascinee par les europeen mais beaucoup plus conservative!

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Loup View Post
    Bon ben je représenterais Paris alors.....
    Nous en France on traduit directement tout, mais c'est pas facile. En fait, mieux vaut comprendre l'essence des routines et les adapter que de fire du mot Ã| mot.
    Sinon pour tout vous dire, les HB françaises sont assez difficiles, Bitch-shields sur les HB7 et plus, peu ouvertes, très manipulatrices. Le game Parisien est hardcore. Sinon le BT peut monter vite, surtout en faisant du C/F.
    Allez, je vous donne l'opener le plus récent (courtesy of PPC): "Excusez-moi, vous n'auriez pas vu passer un pingouin? Noir et Blanc, tout petit, avec un bonnet rouge sur la tête?" Succès garantie, vous pouvez déconner Ã| votre guise.
    Excellent l'opener pingouin !

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