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Old 05-07-2008, 09:08 PM
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To me, this is one of the most depressing post to write. To anxious males looking for advice, they may find it. And for interested females who want a glimpse into another world,... they may find it also. But for me this accumulative knowledge and understanding of a rather unorthodox subject is also a blessing and a curse. The negative part about it is I no longer have "rose colored glass" which I can see situations threw. Instead I have a tainted look at females which some people may say has had a "negative effect" on any "extra ordinary" relationship. So readers beware once Pandora’s Box is opened you may soon be finding you self wanting to close it.

I came up with the term stripper mentality being around lots of scandalous woman, strippers, bartenders, or “hired guns”. After studying lots of concepts, studies and theories. First on pheromones, primal instincts, courtship psychology, body language, nuro linguistics, etc. Then naturally I started to have my own opinions on social situations and the information I had digested as a collective.


WHOS REALLY IN CONTROL:
It first started off with a term I called "hunters" among my friends. That word was used for a woman that had more fun and enjoyment out of perusing and capturing a male she desired, rather then being perused buy a male. These were girl that at a public place would operate much like a guy. Visually spotting there target, over time closing proximity, and then fire. The entire time making the guy feel like he was "just so cool" that the girl was drawn to him. This whole process might take them anywhere from 5 mins to 3 hours. But she was in control the whole time. Maybe operating on an impulse. But she knows what she’s up to. She knows what time it is, and what’s really up. The term "stripper mentality" came about when I was explaining to naive males about what had just happened to them. Why the female they were interested in was acting a specific way. When the guys couldn’t make sense of the movements. It was a term that kind of just encompassed everything and was self explanatory.

CAN YOU HANDLE HER?
There was a movie a long time ago, and in the movie one of the older Don Juans said something like " A female player wants to be played, and has to be played, and needs to be played". This makes complete sense when you look at human nature. Because buy nature humans want a mate that is interesting, can understand them, but yet is a challenge. The last thing I mentioned, challenge. That’s a very interesting one that some people reading this might disagree about. But let me tell you right now. No woman wants a man that she can walk all over. And if you ask her and she says "yes". Then some part of here is being unfulfilled. The truth is no woman wants a man that she can walk all over, because if she can walk all over him, how can he protect her? So in a way saying that a female player wants to "be played" is like saying she wants someone that can play, and beat her at her own game. I bet it’s been a really long time for her since the rolls have been reversed and she has felt like she was the one out of control. Especially if she is a very attractive woman that works in a field that is required for her to be attractive. Like a barmaid, some clothing stores, dancer, etc.

This ties in to my next point I want to touch on relating to this subject,... the next lever of "stripper mentality" would naturally be prostitution. Some people wonder why woman would want to be "Call girls" or high class escorts? The evolution is quite obvious. For some, their first "love" in control. Second is their "love" for the money, and third is their "love" of being desired. In regards to the first love, a lot of woman in these situations are under the impression that they are under control. The underlying logic is they don’t get attached, and are in control of them self’s. So they can handle being in control of men, therefore are in control of the guy, and therefore are in control of the situation. Perhaps they really are in control. I mean, sometimes when I watch my neighbors walk their dogs down the street and I watch them picking up the dogg poop in a plastic bag, I wonder who really is in control? The owner picking up the poop, or the dog with the lease around its neck? Who is to say who's really has the power. That’s what the first and second love (desire) really comes down to. Power. Desire is a lot of willing and urging. Which are not bad things, but in some situations the can be used against a person. A few illustrations come to mind The good old carrot in front of the donkey illustration. Or when Lucy used to hold the football in front of Charlie Brown telling him that he was able to kick it, and then she would always pull it away at the last second. Over and over again. It’s that desire to get something that is out of reach that these women make livings off of... When someone desires you, and they are perusing you. That makes you with the power over them doesn’t it?

Now to finish up the last "stripper love". The money that makes the world go round. No one actually wants the little pieces of paper, but we all want what we think money will do for us, and give us. Money can upgrade your standard of living, and once you get used to that standard of living it can be addictive. It’s very easy to get assumed to things and the comforting feeling of having money in your pocket. The truth is, in life, if we are not doing some real soul searching on a regular basis it’s very easy to get caught up with "things we have". They may even being to take over. All the things you get used to because of money can actually be controlling. I’ve learnt that sometimes when you have more, you actually have less. Less of what matters. Stripping and prostitution are not jobs, they are lifestyles. Some working girls might say " yeah, ya know my family and health are important to me". I would buy that, and yeah, it might be true. But money is MORE important to you. It’s a more REAL type of important.
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Let me hear what you guys think that ave been with a few of these girls. What are you using to pull?
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mm, the subforum you posted this in is filled with threads about experiences with strippers.

You'll have hours of reading pleasure ...
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After living with a stripper, I developed a philosophy about them: it's fun to watch them but they're damaged fuckups with nothing to offer a man of value.


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good point silversixone they are fun to watch and they are damaged, but fuckups, thats a lil farfetched isn't it? i mean i know some strippers, some are actually trying to better themselves, in fact, i went to college with one i didn't even know she was one and a model as well, she was damaged and well known to pick a not so good guy, but when i talked to her as a person before i knew this, she was one of the most interesting girls i have met and i would definitely date her, but she got a dude, and is in fact a mma fighter (sportfight in fact)
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lol, that sounds like a oil change lot guarantee
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After living with a stripper, I developed a philosophy about them: it's fun to watch them but they're damaged fuckups with nothing to offer a man of value.


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Gee, thanks for lumping us all together.

Each stripper is an individual person. Some work so many hours they don't have a life outside of the strip-club mentality or their own fabricated strip-club personality. Some have to do drugs to give themselves an excuse for getting naked in public and making money from it. Many women consider what we do "slutty" even if there's no contact. Nudity, IMHO, is not naughty. It's natural. And fun at the club!

I'm engaged, wedding is in June 2009... and I keep getting guys who beg to be "in line, just in case it doesn't work out."

Please don't judge an entire group of diverse people in one profession as the same. We're not. I've met some fucked up dancers for sure, but also have seen my share of people you would never think were dancers if you knew them outside the club.
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Gee, thanks for lumping us all together.

Each stripper is an individual person. Some work so many hours they don't have a life outside of the strip-club mentality or their own fabricated strip-club personality. Some have to do drugs to give themselves an excuse for getting naked in public and making money from it. Many women consider what we do "slutty" even if there's no contact. Nudity, IMHO, is not naughty. It's natural. And fun at the club!

I'm engaged, wedding is in June 2009... and I keep getting guys who beg to be "in line, just in case it doesn't work out."

Please don't judge an entire group of diverse people in one profession as the same. We're not. I've met some fucked up dancers for sure, but also have seen my share of people you would never think were dancers if you knew them outside the club.
thank you, finally someone agrees with me i thought it was one of the verses of the bible not to judge people anyway. and i got to say one thing, a yr before the marriage, thats a ways away isn't it? nvm that i have met girls who are making them wait 3yrs, that is evil. in the words of dr.evil "your quasi-evil, the diet coke of evil" anyway, i can agree there bout the whole different stripper thing as i mentioned prior to this, and believe it or not i can tell just by looking at them if they are messed up or not, and not by use of drugs either. it is how they walk, how they talk to their customers(even though they are being kiss ups to the customer, they have that thing that just makes them seem a bit off.)and other things such as that
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I married one and lived with her for 11 years! I know a lot of strippers. Sometimes you can get them to do naughty stuff at the club, give you their number, or come home with you. The ones that have boyfriends or husbands are often truly 100% loyal. To them, work is just work. They often don't even consider the guys as potential lovers, or in fact think about sex at all while working. They'll be on stage thinking about what they need to buy at the grocery store tomorrow or whatever.

Being a stripper doesn't necessarily mean they were screwed up to begin with, or that they are necessarily screwed up at all. Many are great people. But what I noticed is that the lifestyle tends to cause psychological problems over time. It takes a very strong, centered, mature woman with very high self-esteem to be able to work that lifestyle without some cracks in her armor forming and poison seeping into her mind or heart. Many girls can't take it and fall apart. But some can handle it. So don't be prejudiced. They're all individuals, often with a lot to offer.

And for god's sake don't cut the women down just to make yourself feel better! You may be the one that pushes them over the edge into prostitution or worse.
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