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Old 04-25-2008, 04:17 PM
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I was going to put this in the Field Reports section but that's not really what this is about. It did happen one night at a strip bar but there's more to it then just recapping what happened.

Last Sunday out of the Blue a friend of mine stopped over. We're pretty much best friends and use to hang out all the time. But since he got married he don't hang out near as often. Anyway he asked if I was busy for the next few days because a relative in Kansas is very sick and he's driving there to visit and asked if I'd ride along for the 12 hour drive. I had no real plans so I went.

We took our time to get there. Stayed at a hotel when it got dark and once settled in our room we looked for a bar to go to. Being Monday we didn't expect to find much happening. But then we found an exotic dancer bar called Beach Girls (Very nice stripper bar by the way and the girls really are higher class then in most places. Go to their site, enter and see some pictures of them.). One strange thing about this place is that they don't serve booze but you can bring your own (I never heard of this before). So I got a six pack and we went. This is were things got interesting.

Now I haven't been to a stripper bar with this friend in a couple of years. He knew nothing of the PUA techniques I've been learning. I didn't tell him this but I thought it would be interesting to see what happens. I mean he'll do things the way he always did but I'll handle things differently with some of the things I've learned in here and in MB and the other books. In my mind I looked at is as a sort of contest.

I already knew what he would do because it's what he always does at a strip bar. Sits in the seats to get the best view of the dancer on stage. Make comments about the girls and basically look overly interested. In other words do AFC things. I on the other hand paid no attention to the dancers. I was acting as if being there was no big deal to me.

It got interesting when 4 girls came up to my friend asking if he wanted a lap dance. But NONE OF THEM ASKED ME! I thought this was great because they viewed him as "money". I eventually had one girl ask me and I turned her down and made a few joking comments. I got some laughs but turned her down.

Later my friend took up an offer and went into the back room for the private dance. While he was gone I spent my time meeting and joking around with people. I started with the group sitting next to me. Then talked to the guys who work there as security. Then to some of the dancers. In other words I was meeting people while my friend was back there getting the dance.

He came back and told me it was the best private dances he's ever had and even had a little blowjob and fingering action. He got another dance with another girl and I went about talking to people, doing magic and had a crowd gathered around me when he came back. While talking about how I'm from Michigan a couple of the girls gave me her number and Email. Another asked for my autograph. They brought the owner of the place out to meet me. When we finally left I had so many people give me a farewell with pats on the back, hand shakes and hugs. One girl fallowed us out to the parking lot and got a more then friendly kiss while leaning against the wall of the building. She told me that if I come back again to Email her and she'll show me around and go out.

When we got in the car my friend was telling me about how the second dance was even better. It turns out he used the tactic is offering more and more money to get the girl to do more things.

Here's the recap of the night. I spent Absolutely no money in the place besides getting in the door. Didn't even have to buy drinks because I brought my own. I didn't give a dollar or anything to the dancers. But I left a very popular person. Just about everyone there either meet me or saw me. Even the owner of the place. I made out a little and got some Email addresses and invites to go out next time.

My friend got a "partial blowjob and hand job". No phone numbers and made no "friends" or anyone he might be able to look up if we ever head that way again. While it's true I didn't get any real "Sex". I couldn't even bring them to our hotel room because we had already had a long drive and had another long drive the next morning. But what he got cost him over $200 ($100 on each of the private dances and close to $50 in ones for the dancers on stage.

What do you think? Who won this little contest?

(Keep in mind he wasn't thinking in contest terms. I just wanted to see how the end results would compare to his "I'm horny and have money to spend on your" way and my more PUA way).
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:55 PM
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It got interesting when 4 girls came up to my friend asking if he wanted a lap dance. But NONE OF THEM ASKED ME! I thought this was great because they viewed him as "money".
hahaha this exact same thing happened when I went to the best strip club in town with my cousin.

We sat down, and this girl was searching for the next victim, when he came up to us and started talking to my cousin, totally overlooking I was there. She gamed my cousin in about 5 minutes, he paid her for a lap dance, and that was about it.

I was wondering why no girl approached me, and came to the conclusion that I had this attitude of "Im the shit" and they must have thought that I would never pay them for anything. I should also mention that I was much better dressed than my cousin.
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Old 04-26-2008, 12:35 PM
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It's all about image at a strip club. Taking your time to shoot the breeze with the staff is great. Hey they are people too and on the inside. One thing I do when I go is give my money to a friend or a couple friends, then have them buy my drinks, it's all image. If I desperately want a dance I get them to buy it for me. Another thing lately I noticed is going with a girlfriend, it's TOTALLY different. If it's your girlfriend or female friend, hell I've went with my lesbian cousin, what a different place it is when you come with a good looking girl already on your arm. It's mind blowing seeing my lesbian cousin leave with 15 #'s.
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Old 04-26-2008, 01:03 PM
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Dude. He got a blowjob and you got nothing. He obviously won... duh.
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Old 04-26-2008, 02:11 PM
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No, not a real blowjob. Basically she put her lips around it a few times. For the low price of $100.

One thing my friend told me about that private dance was funny. He's bald and the girl rubbed her naked cunt all over his head. LOL

The thing is I'm sure that if we didn't have to make another long drive the next morning I probably could have gotten at least one of them to come back to the hotel with us. I'm not saying that definitely would have happened but I was sure in a better position to make that happen then my friend. That is unless he wanted to cough up more money.
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I've never heard of a strip club where they don't serve booze, that's bizarre. How do they make any money?
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You won. When you put money down for a stripper, you loose, and that's what you're friend did, because the strippers now look at your friend as "the bank"

The stripper mentality, is "this guys has money, i can get more out of him, i've gotten what i've want, i don't need it anymore."

But when they look at you, "this guy knows the management, he's not spending any money, he's totally not interested in a dance, who is he?"

So you've won cuz next time you can go in there with higher status and it will be easier for you to game them. have fun!
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Old 04-26-2008, 08:08 PM
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you won my man, i have had this happen before, my 21st day which was great until i got drunk and a stripper who according to a friend was pushing 40took 60 dollars in lapdances from me, she didn't say it was 20 dollars per song anyway. soon as the dancers found out that i knew the owner of the place they all changed their tune towards.

long story short, you won, you got more for less in the words of the ROSS clothing store
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I've never heard of a strip club where they don't serve booze, that's bizarre. How do they make any money?
The popular DejaVu doesn't serve booze. At least none that I've been to. They make their money by charging almost $5 for a coke and of course the dancers.

But this place doesn't serve booze but you can bring your own. That I never heard of. As I said I meet the people who worked their that night and one of the security guys saw that I had a 6 pack of beer and brought a bucket of ice out to me for my beer.

If you ever go to Des Moines, Iowa and want to check out an exotic dancer bar. This place is a good one. Pretty much the best I've been to as far as the dancers and the people. Even the security was friendly. Most security act all big and bad (For good reason) but this place they were cool people.

But the booze thing was odd. Never heard of that. Another thing was that you had to be 18 to get in instead of 21.
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Each state and/or county has its own rules for liquor liscensing in an exotic club. Sometimes being in a bar that doesn't serve alcohol is a better idea because you won't be tempted to drink (messes up your Game) and the women are allowed to show more (full nude versus topless or pasties). At least that's the way it is out in San Diego.
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