I posted this on the Austin lair, I just thought I would throw this up here for you guys with a few notes from my wing Rainman.
Rainman is the real expert at gaming these kind of girls, but I'll drop the little knowledge I have. Last night I went to go hang out with him at the titty bar where he bartends and I ended up # closing a waitress and a dancer. I think I could have pulled either one for a SNL, but logistically it was going to be a bitch (I'm having my carpets cleaned so my house looks like a god damn disaster, and my dark sheets have sex stains on them from my girl on Saturday night)....
I was locked in against the bar talking to Rainman who's bartending. Now the waitresses and the dancers have to come here to get their drinks so the location is perfect. Plus you're away from the main stage, which helps to break the customer frame. Here is a loose structure that I ran on both.
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tease/ push-pull - and guys always take this too far! it's little stuff, like "this one is trouble" and mild shit like that.
2.
break the customer frame - you have to separate yourself from the choad guys who come here. And they'll give you plenty of opportunities to do so. As soon as they start complaining about the customers, or how shitty their night is, or bad tips, whatever. You can joke about how it's a great place from them to find a BF, cold read guys in the crowd, try to pick out the ones with money with her...whatever. I think I said something like "wow you are a hustler. I bet you're trying to hustle me right now aren't you? I can just see you asking me for a dance in like ten minutes"....this baits them to qualify themselves and helps you break that customer frame.
(Rainman's note:f you bust her on wanting to give you a dance it is like calling out the elephant in the room, it doesn't allow her then to ask for a dance because YOU have already brought the subject up.)
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DHV - I personally don't like gaming the golddigging dancers because I think they're empty soulless shells. They're not all like that. So when I DHV I stay away from topics like money, job, cars, all the other things their sugar daddies talk to them about. I use
humor, banter and most importantly touch on the fact that you understand women, and that you're not judgmental. I think my story last night went something like this:
"Ya, so I grew up in Europe. And people there are so different. Like interactions between people are different, cause of the culture, and style of life, and everything. Like here in America, it seems like a lot of people have these barriers between them, and sometimes it really hard to make genuine connections with people in like bars or clubs. You know what I mean? But in Europe, people tend to be a lot more open...and well, human towards each other. Like for example, women in Europe, who are some of the most beautiful women in the world, dress nice no matter where they go. And a lot of them are really intelligent and classy, but at the same time there's something really sexy and feminine about them. Here in America, we're so driven by sex in our culture, in our movies and advertising and everything, that there's almost this expectation for women to be sexual and expressive, but as soon as they do, people start judging them. Guys think, oh well if she's dressed like that she must be like this, and even other women will talk shit about her. And that's such a bullshit double standard. You know what I mean? And in places like this especially, guys look at women like they're pieces of meat. Like, just because they're dropping twenty bucks on a lap dances they feel like a bad ass and that they have the freedom to do what they want. And they don't realize that you're just doing your job. It's a job, it's not who you are."
In this i'm dropping hooks for her to latch on to such as the fact that I'm from Europe, while at the same time DHVing myself:
1. I'm exotic, from Europe,
2. I'm socially aware of what's going on
3. I understand women
4. I don't judge women
5. I'm not a scumbag customer
4.
Make a connection, slow down your cadence of speech. You can't skip this step. This is how you know you pulled the hired gun. Cause it's really easy to think you have attraction with them, but a lot of the time it can be fake. If you can pull this step off, then you're good. In the story above, you're shifting from attraction, into something real. Now you have to have her tell you something real about herself, and you do the same. And it has to be NON STRIPPER RELATED. So nothing about how long she's been dancing, or whatever. What I used with the dancer last night was (and this is an abridged version of the conversation, just to hit the main points)
me: so what do you do when you're not hanging out here?
her: I love to write.
me: what do you write about?
her: well I used to write poetry, and somehow I always end up writing about sad things. But it's always a lot of fun.
me: I know exactly what you mean. I used to write a lot and now I mainly write screenplays, but there's just something about it. It's like when you're writing, you just get in your own little world, everything else disapears, and you get in this zone, and it's so amazing. It's almost like an escape from the real world into this other place that's just yours. You know what I mean? And people who aren't writers can't understand that. The only thing I've heard that's close to it is something called runner's high. My friend used to train to be an Olympic runner, and he said sometimes when you're running, you get in this state, where it just feels like you can just run forever, you're running faster and faster and your body becomes light and you just feel like you're floating above the ground, your feet barely skimming it. It's kind of like that when you write sometime. You get buried in this state, this other world, and then you look up, and like two hours have gone by."
So what you're doing is making a connection with her that only the two of you have in this club, in this instance it was writing, and you're also putting her in a state. By describing that state, or 'runner's high' last night, you need to almost put her in a trance. I swear as soon as I finished that story last night, her eyes were glazed over and her exact words were: "Wow..."
(Rainman's note: he follows the EMOTIONAL thread, important to note the differentiation he follows what her PASSION is not what the subject is and instead he focuses on what it feels like to write something. though related to writing screenplays are wholly different than haikus. what would a "customer" have done? talked about poetry and how much he loves poetry trying to gain rapport, he would have talked it into the ground.)
At this point, most of your work is done. Now what you don't want to do is stay in this last step forever. You need to go back into attraction, then back into comfort. Bounce back between the two. Do takeaways. And when I mean go back into attraction, I don't mean like a 15 minute routine. No, just a little joke, some teasing, some physical stuff. But ultimately you should be closing with a future projection.
Hope this helps
-DANTE
p.s. as we all know one of the main switches is "pre-selected by women." the best way to demonstrate this, just like any other attraction switch, is not to blab about it, but instead, SHOW it. and in a titty bar it's easy because there are women everywhere who's job it is to talk to you. So let's say you're gaming your girl, stripper or cocktail, whatever. She's not going to stand there and talk to you all night because she needs to make money and the managers are going to get pissed if she's talking to a customer who's not shelling out money on her. So she'll be bouncing around the club, coming back to you from time to time. You don't want to be standing around waiting for her to come back to you. That is super NEEDY and low value. Instead, open up another girl, and if possible get attraction. Now when you do this, make sure it looks like the other girl is into you. So be locked in, leaned back. This gives the impression that other women are hitting on you, and boom! you're pre-selected, there's competition, and all of a sudden she needs to compete for your attention.
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