Befriending the alph male of a gro... Then becoming the alpha male in that same group

[Kingpin18]

I need a little help here.


I'm in a position of friendship with the alpha of another group. He has introduced me to the rest of his group, but I want to get in good with the group and become familiar with this group. Now the problem is that thie alpha male is always being clinged on my lower males that want in on his golden social group so I am getting the same reaction that these other lower males get that he shows to his group. I need to come off as just as alpha as he is and place myself well in this group.

How should I do that? Do I go through the entire group or do I befriend the alpha male even more? What angle should I approach this?

[el demonio]

Remember the characteristics of an alpha male:
Smile, connect with people, lead the conversation.

The smile is a really important part, though it's the most subtle. I remember alpha males at my high school always smiled when they entered the classroom. I, on the other hand, was the mysterious kid in the corner who kept to himself. So smile, and be sociable.

People often complain about how hard it is to connect with people. My advice is to look into some shit by Ross Jeffries. He has some great routines that create instant connection. However, you should try hard to connect with people naturally as well, without semi-hypnotic techniques. Besides that, do the Cube with some girls, and any other games involving psychology; do some palm reading or handwriting analysis. People feel like you really know them if you can do a bit of cold reading or psychoanalysis. Just don't turn into a performing monkey for the group.

Also, the alpha male takes up space. Spread out on the couch, or stretch your arms out every now and then. Lean back when you talk; it makes you look relaxed. The guy who leans forward every time he talks looks weak to others. Alpha males slap other guys on the back or make subtle contact when it's necessary. Remember, the alpha male invades others' space, and not the other way around. So if this alpha guy slaps you on the back, slap him back (not too hard. Don't be a dick, be alpha)

Make your voice louder, express your opinion, and enforce your frame.

[chill84]

I didn't read your post or the replay, but the way to do this requires finess. You have to befriend the alpha male, then you have to befriend his friends. It sounds basic but you can't befriend an alpha then try and amog him in his own social group, that's just stupid. You have to DHV like fucking crazy, once the AMOG accepts you then his group will follow his lead and accept you as well, you then befriend the group DHVing to spike your value as high as possible over time. You can't amog him and assume high value. You have to build it from scratch. Once you've won the group over you can start subtly amogging the Alpha and making him beta himself to you as you DHV and show the group your value is higher. You never blow him out, you just make him beta to you, and he will not beta to you unless his group will also beta themselves to you.

[sdnightfly]

If you can be part of the social group without having to jump through hoops and showing that you don't "need" to be part of their clique. I figured that out in 5th grade when my social circle wanted to kick my ass that friends can turn into your worst enemies. Maybe you didn't do anything, but all it takes is a believable rumor.

I became friends with specific people and eventually got to know everyone over time. Would tell different stories, supposedly "private", but it was to test them to see who was going to not be able to keep a secret. Most of the time it was made up, but it was never the same...that can get really hard to track. I usually expected someone to be resistant, but just by getting what they're about, getting them to open up and a good or bad vibe, I could work with it.

It's no different than when you're dating a gf and someone in her group doesn't particularly care for you. She's not going to say anything to your face about how she really feels, and she's going to tell her friend if she doesn't like it, tough.

I think you should get along with his friends, but being a suck up is flat out Beta, and for people starting out in a career, that, once they've proven their worth, can stop.

It's good to be part of different social circles esp. after high school. You have them all together at a party, interesting things happen (usually good because they're all from different areas).

They're going to be skeptical of you, don't worry about them, and over time you'll have a better idea on how the social circle is.