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Old 10-06-2007, 11:07 PM
kavepower kavepower is offline  - Male
 
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hey dudes,
i have the biggest problem with story telling because I only have so many stories to tell. this is where i f-ed up at the bar yesterday. what are some interesting topics to talk to the group of guys before talking to the girls?

also, i had some girls to meet me that night, beacuse I talked to the guys first, but all i could ask is "are those real glasses or are they plastic?" or "is that your real hair color or did you dye it?". then, i was thinking about asking "where are u from?" or "how do you know the host?" or "do you like your classes?", but the 2/3 questions seem very dull. After this stage would be the compliance stage right? this is where i do the kino tests and take her out somewhere quieter, right?

- this is the part where i got stuck and f-ed up-

also when i get the target and take her out , what kind of subjects other than talking bout childhood? my childhood was shitty and depressing, and i would prefer to talk about playful things and listen to her stories in our teenhood and up....

i am a very serious, goal-oriented person, and it is difficult for me to get into a playful mood and think of playful questions. i did read TrueStory's link about bars and host parties, but i need to spark questions that will get me into that mode. any suggestions would help at this point.

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Old 10-09-2007, 02:28 AM
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I used to have this problem, you jsut have to gain the SKILL of being about to talk about anything. Like Tyler Durden says "I can pretty much talk indefinatley"
Jsut talk about whatever your feeling... I laughin into storys about something interesting that happened to me that day.. I even make it up if I have too. Avoid the awkward silence at all costs.. A normal silence is fine, but an awkward one is DEATH.

Whenever you have nothing to say or you feel an awkward silence approaching, say:

Oh my gosh, the craziest thing happened to me yesterday...

and go from there. Tell a true story, or even prepare some dhv ones befoer hand.
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Old 10-17-2007, 11:25 AM
 
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Improv and talking are possibly my greatest skills, I talk A LOT. Too much in fact that sometimes I inadvertantly drop DLV's, but I say it in such a way that it is typically charming. Typically.

I have my own issues. But let me help you with yours.

My signature says it all. Prep some stories, do some improv.

To typify myself, I have been a roleplayer(LARPer, that means Live-Action roleplaying) for about as long as I can remember.


The Bad: It's geeky. And it's not one of those things you should EVER bring up within the first for -ever. Maybe after an f-close, but sometimes not even then.
The Good: I can imagine myself in ridiculously complicated situations, as well as can change my personality quite, quite easily. It's just acting, and with a deep enough belief you can do it.

The thing is,
you need to be able to imagine yourself as someone who can talk. Who says interesting things.

You must be into what you are saying, your body language will follow your mind. If you think what you are saying is boring, at least don't FEEL it. If it's interesting to you, it will probably rub off. But you must engage your targets. TMM says you need to read them, to turn all the lights green. This is so true, if ONE person takes away from your energy, if one person escapes your story, then you could lose the whole set. YOu are the stranger here, they will leave you.


As for stuff to talk about.
1. Do you have a hobby? Is it sarging? If it is, find another hobby. Or, actually talk about Sarging. I've won a set for about an hour, I lost it for reasons unrelated to talking (I don't choose a target within the 3-secs, I approach, engage whole group, I have no target ever, that's my flaw)
2. Crazy abstract shit you saw. Did you see a man attacked by a squirrel? Did you see what could have been a man attacked by a squirrel? Could you convincingly imagine a man attacked by a squirrel? Make stuff up if you have to, but then begin actually witnessing your life. That is what WOMEN see, and if they don't they know other women are this observent, and will feel a connection to you and their worldview.


If you learn anything from my post. It's that this isn't only a natural gift, it CAN be learned, SHOULD be learned. The West (as in non-asian and western hemisphere) puts TOO much emphasis on natural abilities. Suck at math? "Then you obviously weren't meant for math! You don't have to learn as much! Be an artist or musician! No need to learn something you're bad at, and you probably couldn't learn if you wanted too!" This comes from our ideas of "predestination" and even "manifest destiny." Very puritan ideas, very christian ideas.

In the east, if you suck at math? they say " tough shit, study harder." A culture based on the idea that things are meant to be mastered develops the idea that working harder is an honor.

Read books, read plays, read movie scripts, watch movies, listen to music, and not for just the sake of enjoyment but for the sake of expanding your cultural DEPTH. Quote movies, talk about stuff you've seen, develop an interest IN YOURSELF. And remember, these people are already your friends, right? TMM teaches you should assume intimacy. Do it, let the eagerness and hesitation dissapate. Talk about something you just learned, or something you just read, and engage the EMOTIONS, not the mind. Talk about how awesome HP7 was, and how your heart broke at <spoiler.> They'll rib you, maybe neg you, neg them right back and keep going.

That is how you talk forever.

Let me know if I helped.
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