help!! im loosing attraction super quick!!

[nighle]

ok, this is a sticking point for me,

im making new friends all the time, so what happens is i meet new people, build social value, then i get them to invite me to wherever their going.
We meet later that day or some other day.

Sometimes, ive had it happening that the girls im befriending (not gaming) bring along people from their peer group to wherever we are going, (not as in a date, they just happen to be around too) and they are HBs, so i start running DHV game (attraction) TO THE GIRLS I ALREADY KNOW, and i can do this because i already have very high value among the people i met before, so i treat this girls as if they were targets, entertaining the group and being the center of attention all the while ignoring the new member (the target).

Ive found that this consistently humungusly amplyfyes any attraction that the target was feeling for me as a result of the initail peer approval (because i started to run routines inmediately and by that point everyone in the group accepts me as the new group leader or as the center of attention).

So the target starts to show some clear indicators that she is feeling a lot of attraction for me, (but the problem is that they never show any direct IOIs as in normal approach-night-game, cause she is left "out" of the group, as she doesnt really know me (im the cool guy that everyone else in her group worships but that shes been just introduced to) or im not really talking TO HER (when i run a normal set and she is initially part of a set, the target feels free to comment, answer question or participate in whatever way she wants while giving IOIs, but as she is left in the role of the "akward spectator" she really cannot show the usuall IOIs.

So yea, here comes the sticking point (after all the extensive background explanation, he):

whenever i am left alone with the target ( i get the group locked into a discussion or whatever) i can tell she is as attracted to me as humanly possible (ive even had some targets blushing whenever i left the group engaged in some activity and turned around with a "so...what is your story then?" lol)

So as i have not received any IOIs i cannot get into A3, so i start a DHV routine But for some reason, normal A2 game never works in this specific situation, they just dont IOI, they dont take the hints and dont respond to kino, i can tell the attraction is dropping dramatically and they loose interest quickly. Once i even tried to go straight into A3 without getting IOIs and i just got monosylabic responses to which i could not give approval to.

i dont know if its because its really obvious that i like her just because i left the group engaged and started talking to her (and im telegraphing interest or something) and that causes the attraction to evaporete.....

This has happened several times know and its becoming one anoying sticking point, any help-advise-comments?

[breaks11]

To me it seems like the frame. You are the big cool new guy who became the alpha, and she is attracted to you. So then she gives you IOI's when it's in a group, but then when you two are alone, she dies out. What I think might be happening is that (it is possible) you are giving her validation too quickly and not making her earn it. You've said yourself how "it's really obvious that i like her". So to me this is just a case of validation. She is looking to you to see if she can get you, cat-string theory. If you give the cat the ball of string it'll smack it once then get bored and go away; if you dangle it just in front of a cat and keep it close enough where it think it might get it but far away enough that it can't get it.

hope this helps

[nighle]

oh no no, i dont give validation, thats the problem, just by starting to talk to her alone im afraid im saying "i dig you", there is no reason why i would be talking to her otherwise, she has nothing to offer to me social wise at that very moment, so i begin A3 but they give me nothing worth of praising so i just keep asking questions or doing routines to fill the spaces but i can see how the attraction is fading quickly....i dunno its a very weird scenario this one....