getting past the wall.

[Relaxx]

few nights ago i was getting reallllly close to a girl ive been working on for a week or so
so to make a long story short, we were in bed, and every time i tried to escalate from making out, she would either re-direct me to a lesser level of intimacy or just to grab the boobs.
believe me fellas im all for the boobs but enough is enough.
i tried freeze outs. didn't work. she would tickle me or be scarily forceful.
i tried to pump the buying temperature with another girl (a friend of hers) on the bed next to us with some lucky guy
that was a no go.

i just ended up doing a full freeze out and going to sleep.
was one of the most frustrating times of my life.

can anyone shed some light on what i can do or what im doing wrong?

[LittlbigD]

1. Over anxious. This is obvious by your double use of " " You just made out with a hot chick and grabbed her boobs. That sounds like fun to me.

2. You were a total horn dog and kept escalating. Two steps forward and one back. She should never tell you no because you need to stop before she does.

3. Why are you trying to get with this girl in front of other people? Show her some respect. Isolation does not mean group sex (usually)

4. You lost your frame. You got pouty and threw a temper tantrum when she said stop.

5. Why of everything you read you remember Freeze outs and not all the other advice? Freeze outs are weak and lame. If the girl isnt ready to go further with you show her respect and put in the time until she is ready. Get to know her.

6. Probably about a dozen other mistakes made up unto this point such as comfort and qualification.

7. Slow down!! Read the manual. Study more.

[Relaxx]

thanks for the pointers
im fairly sure i wasnt anxious
im not really that fussed when it comes to sex.
the main thing that got to me was frustration.
i know this girl wants to.
she's been advertising herself all night.
she's been shit testing me all night.
it just annoys me that someone would put me through all that and pretty much wipe the board clean of all my efforts when it comes to being in a bed.

i have another shot in a month or two when she comes back so ill probably work on my bed-game.

[BloodyViper]

Sometimes when you get frustrated you lose your techniques. Don't let that happen!

Number 1 rule for ALL PUAs:
ALWAYS STAY CALM!!
You lose your calmness: Game over. You don't want that, trust me!

Example: With my LTR, she gave me lots of LMR first time I tried to F-close her, and I started to get frustrated. All I did was lean back, and relax. Just relax! You have no idea what the power of calmness has! So I took a step back, got my techniques back, and we fucked for three hours until she was too soar to keep on going...


I can't stress that one enough!
Yes, talking from experience... LOTS of experience. Don't even bother to ask :P

[sdnightfly]

Find something else to do and ignore her for a little while. Get a drink of water, bring her a glass. But don't show any signs of being upset, and then be affectionate with her, work your way back into it being sexual again but in a more relaxed mood, which should put her at ease. No hurry. No race to the finish line, just the two of you caught up in a moment that feels right..

Originally Posted by BloodyViper

Sometimes when you get frustrated you lose your techniques. Don't let that happen!

Number 1 rule for ALL PUAs:
ALWAYS STAY CALM!!
You lose your calmness: Game over. You don't want that, trust me!

Example: With my LTR, she gave me lots of LMR first time I tried to F-close her, and I started to get frustrated. All I did was lean back, and relax. Just relax! You have no idea what the power of calmness has! So I took a step back, got my techniques back, and we fucked for three hours until she was too soar to keep on going...


I can't stress that one enough!
Yes, talking from experience... LOTS of experience. Don't even bother to ask :P

[Relaxx]

thanks guys
i know what youre all trying to say and i know how to get through this
its just weird
i cant explain it but this was some weird form of LMR
we'd get going then i'd do something (even little) to escalate
but then she'd stop me
but then theres the bit where i stop but then she's instantly into again.
and i mean INSTANTLY
i was just unsure of what to do
and it was from 12.30 to 6 in the morning.
it was like being on a highway in second gear.
never changing
but its too late to complain now.
i enjoyed it anyway.