Major difficulties getting f-close with HB7,5 - The Attraction Forums

moflow · #1 (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 08:25 AM

Hi Guys, This is only my second post and I'm not sure whether this post belongs in the Newbie forum or not, but at least here I can get answers from more advanced users

Here's my problem, I cannot seem to get a f-close with this Blond HB7,5 that I've been dating for 3 weeks now. I must admit that there have been some major logistic problems (period, resit-exams, etc.) but I doen't seem to get any further than a little handwork.

She gives me LMR, I've tried things like push-pull and freeze-outs but it doesn't work, also she's told me that she had some bad experience with a guy that tried to force her into things and that's why she has trust issues... So I guess it is not ASD. Bottomline is that: "I don't sleep with just anybody!"

Are there any other things that I still can try or is patience the best medicine?? Or should I move on to another girl?

Rusty_84 · #2 (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 08:35 AM

how far physically did you go? how often do you see her? how did you meet her?

moflow · #3 (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 09:06 AM

Well, I thought to be quite subtle by saying handwork

... fingering and handjob is the only passed station.
I've met her through a sort of fraternity (it's kinda complicated to explain how this works in the Netherlands), where she and I are both members of, I see her like twice a week, after partying in the city and seen her like 3 times in the daytime for coffee or something.
Hope this is helping

Thanks anyways for your interest!

TrueStory · #4 (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moflow

"I don't sleep with just anybody!"

translation: I don't sleep with you.

She needs comfort. Probably not enough attraction either, but that's not important, just yet.

Calibration issue when you try to escalate when you don't have enough rapport.

Rusty_84 · #5 (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 10:06 AM

you need to amp up attraction, hammer the three switches again..especially the protector one...a jealousy plotline is also major here (she has to know ure seeing other gurls subtly even if ure not) if you do not get further within a week or two, you need to next her. Also when you're making out take it extremely slow and then cut off the making out first...as if you had enough or smth...if she asks whats up...tell her you wana take it slow...this will drive her insane. Be a challenge and scarce in the bedroom and outside of the bedroom...i dont sleep with anyone is a solid IOD and yes there are also comfort issues. You have to make this combination of scarcity yet shes special somehow.. Another technique that i use when gurls are giving me LMR when i try to take panties off or slip my hand beneath the panties is to take her hand below mine and guide it underneath the panties...works magic! Gluck!

Smokabowl · #6 (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 02:05 PM

Just mirror "Since when am I anybody." not alpha enuff.

Caps · #7 (**permalink**) 02-04-2008, 03:12 PM

next time you start kissing her, start off gentle, then get really into it. grab her hard and start dry humping her and taking off clothes.. dry hump her lots so she knows what youre capable of.. if she pushes away.. go gentle again, then get really into it and keep advancing.. its almost like push/pull while fooling around with a girl.. trust me, most of my lays came from scenarios like this, try it out

moflow · #8 (**permalink**) 02-05-2008, 12:58 PM

Allright, these answers were very helpful! I've done the things you guys suggested yesterday and I'm sleeping there tonight, she's texted me all kinds of naughty things sooooo...
Anyways, the project continues tonight, I'll keep U posted!
Thanks for your help!

moflow · #9 (**permalink**) 02-07-2008, 02:38 PM

Update: she told me that she wasn't sure about her feelings, so both Rusty as Truestory were right! I'm following Rusty's advice right now and it seems to be heading in the right direction...

Thanks guys!

Tox · #10 (**permalink**) 04-03-2008, 10:26 PM

She only told you that to make sure that you will stick around after you have sex with her. The best thing you could of done would of been. To tell her an LMR story. Style has a couple good ones on the lounge.
The other thing you could of tried to do was plough through and try anyway. But key here is if she says no freeze her out. Leave her alone and ask her to watch T.V or offer her a beverage (non alcoholic). Those are indicators that you would stay around.