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Old 12-27-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Need help with LMR - "You don't want to be serious with me."

Having trouble with the f-close on an HB7-fashionista. We are very good friends (known each other for 18+ months) but just recently started our physical relationship.

She had LMR on our last date, but I brushed it off and figured sex would happen next week. Today I emailed her about New Year's Resolutions, and she said something like-
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I need to stop being so cheap and easy. You do not want to be serious with me in a relationship.
She has a few hang-ups that I could never click with. And I like her too much as a friend to bullshit and tell her that we could be exclusive.

What pisses me off is that I know she has slept with her last two boyfriends within the first few dates. I treat her SO MUCH better, she loves spending time with me (when I am nice to her), and still...

Any suggestions to convince her that we can have a mutually beneficial sexual relationship?
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Old 12-27-2007, 08:18 PM
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Tell her your not looking for a relationship but more a FB.... read somewhere about a great 'routine' where you set the frame that
here <ONS>.....................(grey area)........................<Exclusive relationship>To here

There's a big grey area. That being in the grey area is about having fun and doing what you want and feel comfortable with.
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Old 12-28-2007, 01:34 PM
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Should I just continue building comfort on our next date? I assume that I should keep the frame under my control and do a few freeze-outs as needed. Do I need to project anything sexual in advance? For example, if we start making out, I could pull back and say,

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"Hey, don't start something that you can't finish like last time. If this is going to happen, we need to be safe, and it is something we both need to want. I want you to enjoy it so much that you get goosebumps at work tomorrow just thinking about what we did."
Using my understanding of Riker's 3 Rules there. And then if she LMR's with relationship talk, I go into DanJer's gray area talk.
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Old 12-29-2007, 01:20 AM
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It's not my grey area talk. I read it somewhere. When i find it again credit will be given.
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See if this works for you...

Converting Girl Friends into 'Girlfriends'

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