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Old 11-04-2007, 07:09 PM
russki1 russki1 is offline  - Male
 
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Default Could not get past Make Out, in isolation! HELP

So its a Saturday night, Im at a family party and there are a alot of dults and around 5-6 kids with HB that I have met before. All of us (2 guys, HB, 3 little kids) hang out in a theater room so I build more comfort (as I have met HB). Push pull, shes dying to grind on me, shes happy once she gets the chance, lean in no kiss, i tease her about her sailor moon costume, it was fucking hot (tiny skirt bow above ass, high heel boots, tiny shirt). We watch a movie and the little kids go to sleep, other guy goes home.

Its 2am and me and HB go outside to "look at stars" (amazing sky in cottage country). We move to the shed and lie down in front of it escalating makeout, I breathe on her neck and ear turns her on like crazy. I see a shooting star and tell her to make a wish, blah blah, i get to "does it involve us doing something", she says maybe, then she says lets go walk, points to the fucking forest. She helps me up and I pretend to have a hard time gettin up, she says "your so heavy".

We find a random spot and just lie down heavy make out (stop, pull back, pull hair, close her mouth and wisper in ear, etc.), I start to rub outside her pants, she starts hj outside the pants (stops after like 15 seconds). (Its kinda cold out like 0-5 c). I try to finger her but she mounts me and says "Not so fast", I flip her over and put my hand around her neck pushing it into the ground (like a choke slam), and she just seemed very aroused, uncontrollable hands, her tongue was in my throat, I tell her:

Me: (Breathe on ear) "You had a fucking sexy costume "
HB: " Do you know about my vampire costume, its the one my parents don't know about" (she describes it)
Me: "mm nice" (I couldn't think of anything to say to this, it just sounded so hot)

I try again and she starts with the outside pants hj (15 seconds again), I try again to finger her, she turns her thigh down so i cant really reach there. (I assume I need to turn her on even more, as its cold out) But doesn't really lead anywere I give up after 5 minutes. She says "great now I have sex hair(pulls a pincone out of her hair)" I laugh and just say its getting boring im going to sleep. She gets off me, then gets back on top and blows in my eye to try and wake me up. We just end up cuddling then going home, the cold really turns you off if things don't escalate. The next day surprised me, no buyers remorse, she acted like she just had the night of her life and always wanted to be close to me (gave no IOD, a lot of IOI's).

Im thinking could it have been HER problem, and is there anything I could have done to just get her hot enough for BJ.
Is there anything you can do to escalate against a "more shy" girl compared to others I have been with. Anything you can say or do?
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Old 11-04-2007, 08:14 PM
big_pun big_pun is offline  - Male
 
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Default slow down brotha

the push pull you used to get her into you in the first place.... it can still be valuable in seduction game.

you sense a little last minute resistance, before she can say anything, stop what you are doing, whisper in her ear

POA: "we should slow down"
HB: yes we should / no keep going

doesnt matter what she says, just kiss her again. hands back off. slowly escalate again. rinse and repeat. its a mini freeze out. Its like qualifying for A3

Honestly though, best advice is add more comfort game. kiss her, foold around with her a little bit, set up your next meeting, hang out with her and kiss her right away next time you see her, have a few more fun hours together. next time you hook up she'll be a lot more open to whatever you are in to.
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Old 11-05-2007, 05:01 AM
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We were kissing for quite some time, and this is the second time we had a makeout. If I said something like "I want both of us to be comfortable. You can stop me whenever you want. Il be responsible for whatever happens to you, but your responsible for what doesn't happen." Or is this only if you want to F/beat LMR?
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Old 11-05-2007, 07:20 AM
 
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We were kissing for quite some time, and this is the second time we had a makeout. If I said something like "I want both of us to be comfortable. You can stop me whenever you want. Il be responsible for whatever happens to you, but your responsible for what doesn't happen." Or is this only if you want to F/beat LMR?
That's to beat LMR. I used it in my previous field report, found here:

LR: Psycho Panda Girl - Weird but funny story

I found it pretty effective in beating LMR if you continue to escalate afterwards.

As for your concerns, you got bored after 5 minutes. Women can take up to an hour or more sometimes in LMR, depending on how much comfort and attraction you built with them. Your persistence is dependent on how much you really want it. Next time keep with the push-pull factor like big_pun said, and continue turning her on. Eventually, it will happen.

Game on.

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Old 11-05-2007, 09:09 AM
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We were at it for about 30-45 minutes, before I went for the first escalation. Like 15 minutes makeout then we changed location to the forest and another 15 minutes then I went to try and finger her. Then the resistance happened. She was very warm already downthere, I felt it outside the pants. Its just after around 45 minutes, it started to get colder as it was like 0 degrees outside, really killed the mood for me since she didnt even do hj. Does anyone else do that "we should slow down", when she gives slight resistance? I think I was pretty patient with her, I could have dirty talked alittle..
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