Need some advice (Sticking Point?) - The Attraction Forums

TheatreNearYou · #1 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 07:27 PM

I'm not sure if what I feel is what many others, or ANY others here in the PUA community feel. But my sticking point (?) is I feel sorta bad using PU to get laid, when the girls seek serious relationships and I just really want sex benefits. A relationship is what I do not want. For example, this hb 9.5 I've been gaming for awhile sends me this text message today:

"yea def. we can go see it..i don't have school anyways..but um...i thought you don't see me like gf anymore..thats what i was tryin to say but um...i would always make time for you jermaine...i love you!!"
(Keep in mind, we've never had any talks about gf/bf I never bring it up)

Man.. Am I the only one that feels bad for playing around with a girls emotions? That's my sticking point, who knows this could be a shit test to see if I IOI her ass back with "ohh baby I love you!!".

But considering these are a few statements that come to me very very very often, how do you guys deal with it? When a girl says she loves you, what do you respond? After you F-Close her, what do you respond when she says "So what are we now?", "What do you think about me now?" ect.

(Note: This is not a question for any specific girl, these situations come to me a lot.)

Mpls,

DeadEyeDick · #2 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 08:24 PM

Your guilt is a signal that you're not playing fair.

What's needed is a change in your behavior and attitude.

Try being honest. It works.

Read Lay Reports from solid PUAs ... they don't "feel bad for playing with a girl's emotions" as you feel above, because they don't play with a girl's emotions.

Isn't it a little sad to have to do that to get a little pussy?

F-closing isn't like shaking someone's hand. It's the most intimate thing you can do with a woman. From the sound of your post it's not the women who aren't ready for that, it's you.

This was originally posted in relationships, not seduction, where it belongs, but your sticking point is earlier than any of those.

It starts with you. On the inside.

TheatreNearYou · #3 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DeadEyeDick

Your guilt is a signal that you're not playing fair.

What's needed is a change in your behavior and attitude.

Try being honest. It works.

Read Lay Reports from solid PUAs ... they don't "feel bad for playing with a girl's emotions" as you feel above, because they don't play with a girl's emotions.

Isn't it a little sad to have to do that to get a little pussy?

This was originally posted in relationships, not seduction, where it belongs, but your sticking point is earlier than any of those.

It starts with you. On the inside.

To be honest reading what you said is very relieving, mainly because it did not feel fair at all. I feel you on being honest, but would you feel it's a sticking point if I were to say "All girls have a relationship seeking mechanism" (as Mystery would say because of S&R) when sex is involved?

It is honestly sad, it isn't like I do it, it actually pushes me away from the girl aka end up not getting much pussy, aka makes me seem flaky, because I know it's wrong. It's the only way I know so i believed that's how it was supposed to escalate. (which I believe is a long ago rooted limiting belief. ?)

I'll take your advice and read up on as many lay reports as possible, I feel this is hurting my game. Thanks for your advice I really appreciate it, and thanks for moving my thread to the correct location.

Keep the advice coming

Mpls,

DeadEyeDick · #4 (**permalink**) 10-13-2007, 08:50 PM

The reason I suggested reading good lay reports, like Captain Jack's for example, is that you get a sense that things are best when they are mutual.

If you read Magic Bullets, I think you'll get a good sense of how to approach relationships (of any kind) so that what you're both seeking is on the table.

If for no more than practical reasons, tight game does not result in bad feelings -- if a woman feels taken advantage of, she will find ways to take it out of your hide that won't be worth whatever fun you had.

It will be interesting to see what others have to say ... good luck, too! I think if you get this one worked out, you're going to game better and enjoy women more, not less.