i just got ljbf on the first date - The Attraction Forums

Alphalife · #1 (**permalink**) 10-07-2007, 07:43 PM

So these past few weeks, ive been pulling girls and fucked some of them, but mostly not.

I have some issues though. Lately Ive had girls say that i am too mean to her. Once this happens they start trying to be witty and cocky back to me. It becomes this struggle to see who can outwit the other, and with one girl, i cut contact completely because it was nearly a week, and nothing more then making out. Another girl, i fclosed within 2 days, but then eventually lost contact with her, and im assuming it was because i was running too much attraction - too mean.

So i decided to tone down. After running attraction and getting a girls number at a party, she gave me a call the next day inviting me to go eat. I accepted, and ran the whole date on comfort from there on out. Never shot at her once with any negs. At the end of the night when i went for a kiss, she said but were just friends.

So now ive got a serious issue. Before i learned mystery method, i never could attract girls because i would start in nice guy comfort mode.
Now i can attract girls like crazy, but many times i fail to fclose (i get very close) and i feel the reason being that they percieve me as too mean. That we do not connect on an emotional level. So i tried comfort... i ended up getting friend zoned LOL.

damnit how do i change this. Maybe girls see me as incongruent because im always switching from comfort and attraction mode?

ps i should probably admit that all these girls i almost never take on interesting dates. IE the last girl, i took her to taco bell, then back to my house in an attempt to fclose. lol

Recluse · #2 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 12:05 AM

I had a similar problem a while ago. I took a girl through attraction and she came over to my house, but I kept running attraction game with negs instead of trying comfort. She called me an asshole and I haven't heard from her since, lol. I guess we all have to learn the hard way to calibrate it just right.

Keep gaming, friend.

DeadEyeDick · #3 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 03:55 AM

It's ironic that you posted this in the "Relationships" Forum. Serial f-encoutners are not relationships.

Women have special radar for users. You're not being LJBFd, they are avoiding you because they detect that you have just one goal. Your post suggests that you're acting like you're owed something.

You are owed nothing. Nada. Zero.

It's not about your gaming techniques. It's about your ideas about women.

If you are interested in developing relationships with women, even ones that are primarily physical, you need to change your thinking about women. From what you wrote above, you are viewing them as objects. If I'm wrong, please explain.

Read Magic Bullets.

Until you change your thinking about women (and about Taco Bell as a romantic Mexican restaurant) your results will stay the same.

skld · #4 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 04:27 AM

I really don't think the place where you take her matters as long as you have a strong frame. Like 75% of my dates are just going for an ice cream then back to my place to watch a movie we'll never watch.

Colin · #5 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 04:34 AM

You're coming off way to eager and outcome dependant. I suppose your qualifying and comfort shit is a bit shabby as well, probably not very genuine or personable. Girls can "feel" it when you have an agenda, and when your game is shakey and you beat around the bush then you look like a try-hard bafoon.

Taco Bell??? c-mon man. And what's your concern with girls shit-testing or throwing C&f shit back at you? There's no such thing as "too much" attraction either. I suppose you mean "material" wise. Too much C&F will make you look obnoxious and arrogant, that's why you're getting shit from some of these girls. Girls get a rough idea about you pretty quik in the interaction and they'll slot you accordingly. You're probably just not paying attention.

Lansing · #6 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 05:22 AM

I had an issue like this with one girl.. too much C&F type stuff.. It seemed to be really working well and I didn't realize at some point I had to tone down (this was a while ago) ..... What I do now is do a bit of C&F type stuff from time to time (and try not not make it C&F about her necessarily). It is hard to calibrate correctly so there isn't too much "C" and not enough "F"...

Alphalife · #7 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 06:02 PM

Yes i do feel that they are objects. To be honest this feelings stems from the fact that you have to put them down just to get them to like you. When I mastered attraction, my respect for women went down. I suppose it is true that women feel like I am going after only one goal. And to be honest, thats the truth, I want sex and nothing else unless they show they have something to offer.

So with all these past girls i have been somewhat aggressive, forcing them to the walls, forcing kisses, and basically being extremely confident/aggressive when we get together alone. This works on some girls.... but not all

What should I change? How i objectify women?

DeadEyeDick · #8 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 06:59 PM

You reap what you sow ...

You've asked what you should change, and when I suggested where you might focus, you just restated your position a little more forcefully.

Master PUAs don't treat women like shit. Read Best of. Read the Classics Forum. Read Captain Jack's lay reports. They are fun. Spontaneous. Mutual.

If you're having to "force" women to the walls, and to kiss you, and being "extremely aggressive," you're being an ass. Sorry for the toughlove dude, but your one or two forces away from charges ...

You reap what you sow ...

eli_aa · #9 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 07:06 PM

taco for a taco. sounds like a deal to me hahahaha

DeadEyeDick · #10 (**permalink**) 10-08-2007, 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eli_aa

taco for a taco. sounds like a deal to me hahahaha

It didn't work ... did it?