what do you guys think about mystery's new book?

L Duke · #1 (**permalink**) 06-23-2008, 03:23 PM

yea his company emailed free chapters of his new book it just seems like the extension of his first book

what do u gus think

Display MOB · #2 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 09:27 AM

I posted a review on here but it got deleted for some reason?

I thought the new chapters were well put together though and more personal. I really liked it and I think the new book is going to expand and re-evaluate topics that are now older. This book is an up-to-date version of what the community needs and desires.

south · #3 (**permalink**) 07-01-2008, 09:05 AM

it looks nice but most of it is the same stuff just written differently. I haven't read all 322 pages but Ive read about 150 and they added a little bit of natural game ideas along with the old ideas basically. How about renaming the thread 'What do you think about Lovedrops new book?' Lovedrop goes into a big rant in the beginning of the book about Love Systems stealing their method and how you can help. I wish they'd put that crap aside, the business side of pickup turns me off about the community. Hell we all know Mystery and his guys want to be rich and well known. I give them credit for coming up with A method not the only method out there, but they acted like they invented dating and have a monopoly on attracting women. He's too big to even visit his own forums anymore.

shield · #4 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 06:41 PM

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I give them credit for coming up with A method not the only method out there, but they acted like they invented dating and have a monopoly on attracting women. He's too big to even visit his own forums anymore.

If it were not for Mystery we would never know that it's even possible to get better with women we would keep thinking either you have it or you don't. He had to walk the hard lonely road alone to figure this stuff out. Everyone who is anyone in the community learnt from Mystery. I agree about a lot of the things you say because I felt totally ripped off when I bought The Mind of Mystery. However I feel many men including myself would be lost if he did not exist.
p.s. i do think the new book is very good. I have read it and I would say it is the best book around but the price is still too much.

Display MOB · #5 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 08:44 PM

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p.s. i do think the new book is very good. I have read it and I would say it is the best book around but the price is still too much.

Just finished and its great! Went over old stuff but (in a new light) and had a lot of new stuff that's not in magic bullets.

*Note they don't endorse magic bullets and feel this book is completely separate. They aren't affiliated with Love Systems

seldomseen · #6 (**permalink**) 07-02-2008, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by shield

If it were not for Mystery we would never know that it's even possible to get better with women we would keep thinking either you have it or you don't. He had to walk the hard lonely road alone to figure this stuff out. Everyone who is anyone in the community learnt from Mystery. I agree about a lot of the things you say because I felt totally ripped off when I bought The Mind of Mystery. However I feel many men including myself would be lost if he did not exist.
p.s. i do think the new book is very good. I have read it and I would say it is the best book around but the price is still too much.

That's not true Shield. Mystery currently has the most influence but there were other guys around before Mystery who didn't learn from Mystery who influenced other people. I learned about the community in 1999 (the alt seduction message board started around 1994 or 1995 and Ross was the main guy around then and pretty much started the community and David DeAngelo came from his camp as well as others, R Don Steele was another guy yet his focus was for men over 35 meeting younger women) but I didn't know about Mystery until a few years later. I knew about MrSex4U, Pook, and others back in the day but Mystery was one of the few who came up with an efficient structure for pickup and one of the first and few to actually start a live bootcamp (I think David Wygant did too but I not too sure and he was less focused on pickup at the time) were as other guys had great ideas for generating attraction and other things and taught them in seminars and the likes. Most people who've come around in the last 3 years since the Game don't know the history of the community and some of the influential guys back then. There were some great guys, Style even mentioned it in a podcast before but the most influential and probably successful guys are Style, Mystery, David Deangelo and Tyler and you can probably thank Style writing the Game for getting the word out.

south · #7 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 08:18 AM

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If it were not for Mystery we would never know that it's even possible to get better with women we would keep thinking either you have it or you don't.

Where did you get this information from? I always knew I could get better with women before I learned all of this stuff.

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Everyone who is anyone in the community learnt from Mystery.

And where did you get this from? Like Seldom said there were a lot of guys in the community before Mystery was a household community name. I learned about the community from David D if anyone remembers the old mailing list. And I read the Doc Love articles on AskMen back before that so I knew I could get better with women. Do the research man its out there. The community didn't start with The Game or the VH1 show.

Anyway further a long the book gets better but if you've read the VAH, Magic Bullets and listened to the Blueprint by RSD this stuff will already be familiar to you. It goes into much more detail about the concepts they've been talking about all along, in fact I would consider it VAH 2.0 peppered with some natural concepts thrown in. Like I said if you've read the original material and listened to a bit of RSD or even VinDicarlo then you're treading on familiar territory, it's not revolutionary or groundbreaking as most 18 year old would want you to believe but if you're new this might be great stuff for you.

shield · #8 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 08:31 AM

David D and others didn't go in-field though. They didn't prove that what they were teaching worked.

south · #9 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 09:00 AM

Plenty of guys went in field but they weren't teaching boot camps in field like Mystery. There were a lot of keyboard jockeys just like today but there were also guys going out and testing theories and ideas. Juggler, Zan, and others weren't apart of the Mystery camp. The first time I witnessed social proof game was a guy I forget his name but he used to show up at the clubs with entourage of girls with him that were his friends. It was always him and 2-5 girls and other girls took notice. He always showed up in a suit and tennis shoes and was the life of the party. That was about 2001 for me. I didnt know it but it took me later to realize that he brought his social proof to the club and interacted with others that way. Now AdamLyons supposedly has taken that to a new level.

wilynwild · #10 (**permalink**) 07-03-2008, 10:36 AM

Anyone view the Revelation DVD's, listen to the cd's yet?
Any new info?
This IS a relevant question for the pua community, so I hope serious reviews are not deleted (or this post)