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Old 04-30-2008, 09:00 AM
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There's a new documentary out that chronicles the pickup community from '02-'05.



I was wondering if anyone's seen it and can review it. There's a good deal of footage from the NYC Lair, from what I hear...
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:16 AM
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What's the name of this docu?
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Old 05-01-2008, 06:21 AM
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uhhh..Game On
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:17 PM
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someone that has it should upload it on google video so we can all watch it.
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Old 05-06-2008, 03:47 PM
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I ordered this documentary online as soon as I read this thread. I received it extremely quick and just watched it last night.

My overall impression, as with many indie documentaries, is that it showed great promise, but a bit more foresight could have resulted in a much more well-executed film.

First off, documentary filmmaking and pickup are both huge areas of interest for me and I give the filmmakers my respect for putting this project together, because with all the differing methods and schools of thought, it must have been a task to not only attempt to give the viewer a broad overview of the community, but also keep them entertained.

I have given serious thought to making a documentary on this topic myself, though I realize it will be tough for anyone to keep footage up-to-date because of the ever-changing discoveries and innovations of "the game." The film did seem a bit dated to me, for several reasons ($1200 workshops, early-to-mid-90s fashion, heavy emphasis on peacocking accessories, etc.).

I really liked the way they followed Andy, one of the film's primary characters, and showed him taking his first workshop and seeing the beginnings of his transformation. Having taken my first bootcamp last year, I can relate to him in several respects and very much enjoyed that aspect of the film. But I wanted to see a deeper view of his story and those of more average joes like him. That would have been much more compelling viewing, in my opinion.

Instead, most of the film is spent explaining (and defending), through the words of gurus and enthusiasts, what the community is about. Interspersed throughout are thoughts of random women whose (mostly uninformed) opinions are solicited. While PUAs and aPUAs may find some of their thoughts frustrating, I think this was a very necessary component to making an honest film on PU.

But three-quarters of the way through the film, I still didn't have the impression that the uninitiated viewer would be won over by the PUAs' arguments that the community is a GOOD thing. In fact, if most viewers left the film feeling pickup was a sham, I honestly couldn't blame them based on what little life-changing positivity was portrayed in the film. This isn't the fault of the PUAs so much as an unforseen deficiency with the film.

I would have liked to have seen more examples of what great (or even not-so-good) things can come from one's involvement in the PU community, instead of having it explained to me primarily by PUAs who are selling workshops. It' s a case of don't TELL me, SHOW ME. There wasn't enough of that, in my humble opinion.

In the end, despite its shortcomings, I'm glad a documentary on this subject was finally made and it gives me great inspiration to create my own documentary on the topic.
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:35 PM
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Who are some of the PUA's interviewed?
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Old 05-06-2008, 04:44 PM
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There was Mystery (a must, obviously) but curiously, no direct interviews with Style (though there were snippets of his talk show appearances). I also remember Steve Piccus, Magnus of the Bristol Lair, Formhandle and the Pickup 101 guys.

I have to think if a documentary on the subject were made today, you'd probably have a different crop of guys (though Mystery would have to be included again). I would have liked to have seen Ross Jeffries on there too as I think he's a very polarizing figure in the community.
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:01 PM
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pretty interesting to see Future in his student days. Overall this was pretty entertaining, I only wish it were longer and spanned the globe a bit more.
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Where can i get this docu?
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Old 05-11-2008, 07:30 PM
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Where can i get this docu?

You'll have to do an internet search for it, as direct links aren't allowed here, if I'm not mistaken.

There's an indie film distribution site with a bunch of info on it.

Just make sure you don't order the documentary of the same name about video games. LOL.
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