Bootcamp Seminar question - The Attraction Forums

Pana9 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-28-2008, 11:33 AM

For anyone who has taken a bootcamp or anyone who could give me some information, would it make sense to attend just the seminar portion?

Obviously, it is better to take the whole, comprehensive bootcamp and I have read lovesystem's structure of how the seminar works. Do you guys feel as though there is very solid information learned through the seminar or does all the "magic" happen when you see these instructors in action?

leeder · #2 (**permalink**) 04-28-2008, 12:09 PM

Man .... you're 21

Take the entire bootcamp ... I attended bootcamp seminar only (only because I'm under 21) and when everyone else was debriefing after in-field work; I felt that I missed a lot of learning oportunity.

-The Leeder

Charles Ou · #3 (**permalink**) 04-29-2008, 12:17 AM

I am 18 and I went to london. I could get in.

INFIELD IS GOLD GOLD GOLD GOLD. Really... wtf the theory applies for if you have not seen it with your eyes how it works? See the instructors, get their feed back. reallybro, every piece of advice the instructor gave me made MY SET REALLY REALLY REALLY solid. 3 weeks later now, sarging everyday I got models closing me at clubs. Hehe... BC plus dedication after will change your life.

south · #4 (**permalink**) 05-01-2008, 12:52 PM

get out there first and discover your weaknesses before you dive head first into a bootcamp. Read as many detailed field reports as you can not just from this site but all the sites and find out the good and bad. Take notes in your head of your experiences and then go home and journalize what you've experienced. Then decide if and what bootcamp would be right for you.

goodrake · #5 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 04:55 PM

I went to the Superconference and just attended the seminar portion. The reasons I didn't go full boat were (1) cost and (2) I don't normally go to clubs or expect to start going.

I do think I will end up taking another TMM class, either the Daygame one, the Social Circle one, and/or a one on one. While I do think the instructors are effective teachers and a lot of learning happens in the lecture part of the class, combining it with the coaching and getting feedback from them based on observation, and demonstration in field is going to really make a difference in accelerating your progress.

Pana9 · #6 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 05:35 PM

You dont plan on going to clubs or bars? Then why are you studying this stuff?

Speedy808 · #7 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 06:19 PM

In my opinion, the infield portion of the bootcamp is where you will REALLY improve your skillset.

The reason is, the instructors will observe your interactions and IMMEDIATELY diagnose your problems and tell you how to fix them. This will literally shave MONTHS off your learning. Otherwise, you'd be left to your own to figure out why your sets aren't hooking. That could take a lot of time and many, many more painful sets to diagnose on your own.

There were a couple of things that I was told by my instructors that opened sets up beautifully after I implemented them. Without exagerration, these were some of the most amazing female interactions I'd experienced in a club setting.

Besides, much of what is taught in the seminar portion can be gleaned from books, the internet, etc. What you cannot get is the one-on-one attention infield instruction provides.

In the end, you have to decide for yourself which is more important to you: Your time or your money.

The way i see it, I'll always make money to replace what I'd spent. I can't say the same for all the years of AFC chodeness I'd lost, completely unaware of what I was doing wrong.

Pana9 · #8 (**permalink**) 05-12-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Speedy808

In my opinion, the infield portion of the bootcamp is where you will REALLY improve your skillset.

The reason is, the instructors will observe your interactions and IMMEDIATELY diagnose your problems and tell you how to fix them. This will literally shave MONTHS off your learning. Otherwise, you'd be left to your own to figure out why your sets aren't hooking. That could take a lot of time and many, many more painful sets to diagnose on your own.

There were a couple of things that I was told by my instructors that opened sets up beautifully after I implemented them. Without exagerration, these were some of the most amazing female interactions I'd experienced in a club setting.

Besides, much of what is taught in the seminar portion can be gleaned from books, the internet, etc. What you cannot get is the one-on-one attention infield instruction provides.

In the end, you have to decide for yourself which is more important to you: Your time or your money.

The way i see it, I'll always make money to replace what I'd spent. I can't say the same for all the years of AFC chodeness I'd lost, completely unaware of what I was doing wrong.

Cool. Money is not an issue for me. I think I'll be taking a bootcamp

goodrake · #9 (**permalink**) 05-13-2008, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pana9

You dont plan on going to clubs or bars? Then why are you studying this stuff?

Bars, lounges, and other places are no problem and indeed I sarge in them as well as day game.

Clubs wth loud music, dancing, and late hours are not my thing. It seems the bootcamps specifically use clubs since there's usually a good concentration of younger women in them, and thus a suitable environment for practice.

One of the execises you might want to do is think about is based on the kind of women you want to date, where do you see them going and hanging out? In my case, I don't see the kind of women I want to date going to clubs every weekend or during the week. Some of this may be due to difference in age, and some may have to do with common interests.

While there are some specific techniques and knowledge which applies to clubs, most of what I've seen applies to all environments, and it's just a question of how you tailor and calibrate it to the one you are in.