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Old 04-09-2008, 06:50 AM
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Question Questions re Comprehensive Bootcamp (London) 2-4 May

Hi,

I'm interested in attending the London bootcamp on 2-4 May and I would really appreciate some info from instructors and for others who have been before I sign up.

I have not been sarging much and have only done day games (rather than bars&clubs). When I have tried they occassionally went well (I got a pole dancer's #! ) but I still have severe AA and won't approach mixed sets. Is the bootcamp aimed for more experienced people, who now have sticking points, rather than newbies? Are the people who attend already pretty good or just a range of abilities?

Afterwards, I would practise whenever I'm out and continue with day game but I won't be able to keep it up a huge amount of sarging when the bootcamp is over. Will the bootcamp be somewhat wasted if I can't keep it up?

And lastly, I'm currently involved in a LTR and I've spoken to my gf about it. If I'm only aiming for #closes/having fun/building attraction & comfort would the bootcamp still be able to help and do many people do the bootcamps when they are in a LTR? (I guess rare but would be good to know if others have done it/how it went).

Thanks for your help.
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:36 AM
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I'm interested in attending the London bootcamp on 2-4 May and I would really appreciate some info from instructors and for others who have been before I sign up.
It's going to be insanely off the charts awesome, of course

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I still have severe AA and won't approach mixed sets. Is the bootcamp aimed for more experienced people, who now have sticking points, rather than newbies? Are the people who attend already pretty good or just a range of abilities?
We always get a whole range of abilities, from the guy who wants to know what to do when it turns out the two chicks he lined up for a threesome used to model together to the guy who's yet to feel the loving touch of a woman!

Most students, however, whatever their current success level, aren't that familiar with 'tactical seduction'. The guys who are getting a lot of success are tending to rely on luck and charisma. The guys who are still struggling tend to not know why.

We get some guys with a totally encyclopedic knowledge of Magic Bullets (that's you, Seb), but the comment we hear over and over and over again is: "it makes so much more sense in the seminar" - something that really relates to the first time I sat in on a LoveSystems seminar, and had my mind blown.

Different people find different things immediately useful depending on where they're at: discovering the One True Cure for Last Minute Resistance isn't going to help that much until you're regularly getting girls home, where basic body language tips aren't going to revolutionize the game of someone who's regularly fucking really hot girls. If you take good notes, you'll find yourself coming back to them when you reach new sticking points.

This is where the workshop portion really comes in to its own. We'll put you in a group (maximum of three people, but normally one or two) with the instructor we think you'll get the most from working with. If you've got bad Approach Anxiety, you'll probably work with me for the first couple of hours and then Stickler. If you're a tall, good-looking natural who wants more consistency, you'll probably end up winging with Vercetti. If you're hit and miss at the moment, and want to spice up your game with some very sexual direct game, LondonSoul's your man. Rokker's great at spotting sticking points related to self-esteem and self-confidence, and has a bunch of great ideas on getting over them. We normally have a few ex-students there for moral support, and if you want, you'll get a chance to work with all of the instructors.

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Afterwards, I would practise whenever I'm out and continue with day game but I won't be able to keep it up a huge amount of sarging when the bootcamp is over. Will the bootcamp be somewhat wasted if I can't keep it up?
I'll be honest with you: it really depends what you want. If you want to be super-pimp-daddy, you'll need to practice at least 3 times a week. We're not selling magic pills here... If you want a greater understanding of women, social interactions, and just wanna learn how to consistently fuck the girls who are already interested in you, you're still going to need to practice a bit, but you're not going to need quite the level of mindless dedication.

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And lastly, I'm currently involved in a LTR and I've spoken to my gf about it. If I'm only aiming for #closes/having fun/building attraction & comfort would the bootcamp still be able to help and do many people do the bootcamps when they are in a LTR? (I guess rare but would be good to know if others have done it/how it went)
Well, I'm in an LTR myself, and my girlfriend accepts that I go out and practice She's seen huge change in me over the last two years (while I've been an instructor) and benefits a great deal from my ability to effortlessly make new female (and male) friends in new situations - helpful as we've just moved to the other side of the world (Thailand!) where we did't know anyone...

We're not going to be teaching you a magic collection of phrases to use to get laid (although if you're closing exotic dancers, you might wanna learn the Lithuanian for "I've got a kilo of cocaine at home"), we're going to help you unlearn a lot of things you think you know about women and social interaction with them, and then fill your head with a bunch of practical and useful advice on attracting and building connections with them, that we'll then demonstrate in the club, and get you practicing so it sticks!

Hope this helps dude, and look forward to working with you!

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Also: Rokker and LondonSoul are just the right people to talk to about day game, and, would you believe, they'll both be at the workshop

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Hi Sheriff,

Thanks for your help mate - really appreciate it. I signed up yesterday to the bootcamp, so will see you on 2nd May.

I'm going to practise some routines and approach a few set beforehand to help with opening. I'm sure it'll be an awesome three days...

Thanks again for your info man and looking forward to meeting you.
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