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03-14-2008, 05:41 AM
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| | | Questions about bootcamps/1on1s. I have a general question about these bootcamps or 1 on 1's. It seems most people get a lot out of them and feel really good about themselves and make significant progress. But like they say, Rome wasn't built in a day and although people progress, I'm sure they advance to find further sticking points or issues come up that raise questions, etc. Does the instructor offer any type of follow-up as questions come up later on? I don't mean another 1 on 1 or free attendance at a bootcamp. More like a PM or a phone conversation or something similar.
For example, let's say I had problems qualifying women and I took a bootcamp and Fader helped me thru my problems and gave me some great tips to get through them. After a couple of months I've discovered that I do a much better job at creating attraction but now I've discovered that I'm a little shaky in comfort and have a couple of questions on what I might be doing wrong. If I were to reach out to Fader (phone call, text message, PM, whatever) would it be reasonable to expect a response and perhaps some light back and forth convo to solve those new problems? Of course I don't mean constantly being in contact and going over every little thing but if things pop up here and there is it normal for an instructor to offer the student help well after a bootcamp? | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | 
03-14-2008, 09:18 AM
| | | | | | | Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: London Age: 34
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| | | I think you raise some excellent points. I'm sure Fader and the other instructors are great. And I have no doubt that the tuition is spot on - every reviewer mentions how good the courses are.
I just wonder what the long term impact is. Let's face it any course that involves you jumping out of your comfort zone and facing your inner demons is going to leave you on a high. If you were to take an Anthony Robbins course you'd probably feel the same way at the end.
For me the main question is this - do these courses lead to a seismic shift in your game? Obviously, you need to carry on practicising after the course; that goes without saying. But will you be much better than before? If I was to drop $2,950 on a course, I'd want to be damn sure it was going to have a major impact on my life. Otherwise, I may as well just carry on doing what I am doing.
I'd love to hear what former students have to say about this. Students that did a bootcamp 6 months or a year ago... Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanz I have a general question about these bootcamps or 1 on 1's. It seems most people get a lot out of them and feel really good about themselves and make significant progress. But like they say, Rome wasn't built in a day and although people progress, I'm sure they advance to find further sticking points or issues come up that raise questions, etc. Does the instructor offer any type of follow-up as questions come up later on? I don't mean another 1 on 1 or free attendance at a bootcamp. More like a PM or a phone conversation or something similar.
For example, let's say I had problems qualifying women and I took a bootcamp and Fader helped me thru my problems and gave me some great tips to get through them. After a couple of months I've discovered that I do a much better job at creating attraction but now I've discovered that I'm a little shaky in comfort and have a couple of questions on what I might be doing wrong. If I were to reach out to Fader (phone call, text message, PM, whatever) would it be reasonable to expect a response and perhaps some light back and forth convo to solve those new problems? Of course I don't mean constantly being in contact and going over every little thing but if things pop up here and there is it normal for an instructor to offer the student help well after a bootcamp? | | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | 
03-14-2008, 06:05 PM
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| | | I think the whole purpose of the bootcamp is to "reframe" your thinking and get you up to speed with the game. To set out the framework...then its your turn to take it and practice it, come up with routines, try new things, etc | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | 
03-17-2008, 12:32 PM
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| | | Sre there any negative reviews For mystery method bootcamps posted anywere. I have never seen one. I am sure 99% of people have an amazeing experiance but what about the 1% who nobody can help. There are a few people who have taken more than one bootcamp that to me seams pritty strange. If the first one didn't do the job arn't you throwing good money after bad. It didn't do what it said on the tin.
Sorry if I am being to negative. I bring these points up for discusion not meant to be derogotory. | Who wants to change their abilities with women and dating FOREVER? | | 
03-17-2008, 08:48 PM
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| | | If you are worried about my staying in touch with you (I can only speak for myself not other instructors) I have tons of former students who are friends who would be happy to vouch for I answer questions in as timely a way as i can
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I teach Bootcamps, 1 on 1's & do phone consultations with Customized Routine Stacks / Sticking Point Analysis. Pm me for info. My Bootcamp Schedule:
I will do bootcamps anywhere in the US if you get 4 people. I limit my bootcamps to 4 people (no mas!)
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03-18-2008, 01:15 AM
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| | | As one of fader's former students I vouch more than a 100% that any question you have he will get back to you asap. I've never gone more than a day without hearing back from him, he's awsome I have no idea how he does it...I personally don't think he's human lol | 
03-18-2008, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by musick As one of fader's former students I vouch more than a 100% that any question you have he will get back to you asap. I've never gone more than a day without hearing back from him, he's awsome I have no idea how he does it...I personally don't think he's human lol | What's gangsta is I didn't even ask to him answer this... he just came in and did it. Yo get ready for summer... it's gonna be madness.
I have this problem where i keep loosing wings because i train them and they get gf's and cash out on me.
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I teach Bootcamps, 1 on 1's & do phone consultations with Customized Routine Stacks / Sticking Point Analysis. Pm me for info. My Bootcamp Schedule:
I will do bootcamps anywhere in the US if you get 4 people. I limit my bootcamps to 4 people (no mas!)
Try Walking In My Shoes
You'll Stumble In My Footsteps
I'll Turn Your World Around (Lola's Theme)
Veni, Vidi, Clunibus: I came, I saw, I pulled. <3 NJ Bitches <3  I like love songs | 
03-18-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Fader I have this problem where i keep loosing wings because i train them and they get gf's and cash out on me. | HAHA. Typical. All my buddies do that too. Soon as they get a GF its bye bye until they are single again. To be honest, I think thats a part of WHY they become single again! |  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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