PUA Training - Approach, Inhibitions and Confidence course. My experience.

KibbsC · #1 (**permalink**) 03-10-2008, 05:07 PM

About me, courses taken:

Okay, so I recently attended the course called "Approach, Inhibitions and Confidence" with Gambler and his guys on Friday 7th March. I've heard both good and bad reviews on this site and want to share my experience so you know what yourselves into if you decide to take one of their courses. I also attended a recent TMM Bootcamp between dates 15th-17th in London with Sheriff and Mr. M which went amazingly well and pretty much changed my life.

Link here to course I attended: http://www.|||||||||||.com/courses-p...onfidence.html

Meeting and Intro:

I meet the PUA Training team in their flat along with the other students in Leicester Sq. and as I'm talking to the students a woman approaches me and asks for the rest of the payment in a fairly rude manner. Then the seminar begins and Matthew H introduces himself and gives a really good speech, answers questions and talks us through the night, a small bit of theory on how to approach, what to say e.t.c. We are then introduced to Kezia who is confident, friendly but blunt. She runs through a small eye contact exercise with us and then we're introduced to Alistair, Alex and Chris.

Chris then explains in front of us all how there is a Bootcamp on Saturday 8th & Sunday 9th March (which is the following day). At this point he runs through a list of prices for the Bootcamp and explains how it's "original price" (after this upcoming bootcamp) will be increased to £997 + VAT. I knew this was bullshit as I had seen it advertised for the following weeks in March and April for just £549. I feel quite insulted at this point, like they're taking me for some sort of idiot but I keep quiet. They then explain how they will do it for £599 + VAT if us and outsiders attend it tomorrow. But if we pay it in full in cash right now, we will get it for just £549 + VAT. Then Chris looks at the woman (who was rude to me earlier about the payment) and asks if thats without VAT. This is obviously fucking rehearsed and just seems really fake. She replies with a strong "Yes". Chris says "And just for tonight we'll knock the VAT off" and it all just seems so pretentious.

Content, What happened, Things I liked:

We are then brought down into the street and do these warm up exercises, kung fu in front of people walking past and dances to get our confidence levels up. This was really fun and helped to free our thoughts from any assumptions, nerves later in the night.

We go to a club and it's fairly busy I opened a ton of sets. I went strictly by The Mystery Method's routines and chose the course to see things from another perspective in hope to develop my natural game. The instructors in PUA Training basically use a combination of Mystery Method, Charisma Arts (Juggler) and David D's C&F. I found that I was opening sets with no fear whatsoever, acting really outrageous. I really enjoyed this and found the course helped my confidence dramatically. The instructors put me into sets with a line or two to open and told me to say anything from there. It was a lot of fun, some sets hooked really well and I was given a debriefing most of the time after a set.

Later we go street gaming and try to stop moving targets/sets. It was by far a lot harder then Night game in a club. It more ambitious and difficult but we all managed to stop a few girls for fairly lengthly conversations. Few number closes.

We then head to Mc Donalds, open a few sets and then we finish for the night in an arcade with the remaining 3 instructors. Us students spoke for a while when they left, the course was over.

Instructors and Structure, Things I DISLIKED:

The instructors were really friendly and positive, they were helpful in answering questions, giving advice and debriefing. However I felt that they did not give us their full time. When I was in a set very early on in the night, Matt tapped me on my shoulder to give his business card and left the club. He did this with the other students to, in that case I never got to see him run a demo. The other PUA's Alistair, Chris and Alex ran a few demos on a couple of sets, although I didn't find them to be that consistent or good compared to when I witnessed TMM instructors running demos. They couldn't connect as well and there were many times when women wouldn't stop for them when street sarging. Also Kezia and Alex isolated me (got me on my own) and started advertising their 1 on 1's with me and gave me their phone numbers. And Chris advertised his Bootcamp a second time to me during the night,I found this very cheeky. In addition, the PUA instructors constantly AMOG each other (their wingman) when in and out of sets. This is something TMM is against. Alistair even AMOG me in two of my sets by calling me a Pokemon lol, I found it quite funny. And Alex actually said to me "I use to peacock even worse than that", I didn't take offense to these statements but I did find the instructors a little immature and careless and lacked structure in their course. Oh and Gambler arrived in McDonalds to collect his key for his flat and then left, he totally ignored us as students and barely even acknowledged our existence. Not even a simple "hi" haha.

Conclusion

I really did enjoy my course as it was worth the £135 I paid. But I did feel that the instructors were not as professional or concerned in their students progress, unlike TMM instructors. They gave off a more "I just want my money" vibe by pestering the students to join another course. It came across as desperate. TMM never try to force you into buying their programs and respect your decisions. The good side is my confidence improved dramatically, developed more natural game, and I had a lot of fun as the instructors were cool and funny guys to hang out with. It was a good course for me to take after a MM Bootcamp as I relied heavily on routines in the past.