All abroad the Fail-boat: or the tales of “broken hearts”

[trix8]

u fucking scripted out my first relationship as a pua to a key

[BigDuke6]

Another classic by Truestory. Thanks, man.

[Sarge in Charge]

I've said this before but the moment I meet the girl I find something wrong with her, everyone has something wrong with them. I focus on it and know that I can do better than her, then if I break up with her I go on a screwing spree and I have forgotten who I was just dating.

And why exactly do you do this? To me, its just looks like insecurity.

Plus I have enough friends that are AFC's and I can listen and see them fumble and screw up there lives enough to know never to go back to that way.

I got news for you bro - you still ARE an AFC.

Get em and get rid of em!

My observations are based not on WHAT you are doing, but WHY.

Most people here are striving to be more than an AFC, if they are living that routine they are still an AFC, just an AFC that has a GF from time to time

When the schoolyard runt gets tired of being bullied and starts lifting weights, its understandable. When he carries on enjoying the fruits of his labour into young adulthood, its fun. Whether or not he's still chugging down protein shakes and squatting till he pukes when he's forty is not nearly as important as whether or not he's still feeding his muscular arsenal to prove to himself and the world that he aint that schoolyard runt anymore...

Hey, I may be completely off the mark here but the way you cling to the dumbells of your philosophy leads me to suspect otherwise.

I know what MM is for. I know whats its about. By all means sarge. Fuck ten a week. Hell, eat their asses out if thats what floats your boat. But this is, after all, the relationship forum. Why not let things be what they will? Why protect yourself from all of them?

Getting "out" before you "get in" doesn't keep you from AFC-dom. Not being an AFC, whether in or out, does.

[smilenbseen]

I guess you are just one of those guys that I'm talking about. And I can honestly say I am not an AFC, I haven't let a girl frustrate me in years. I hold all the cards at all times. I really don't know if I should even respond to your post because if you really live in South Africa maybe you're one of those people who are writing me telling me they have millions in the bank but they are trapped in Africa because they lost there passport. I stick by never let your guard down, always be ready to move on to the next girl. It's not insecurity, that's like saying you're an insecure swimmer when you take a life vest on a boat.

[Sarge in Charge]

I stick by never let your guard down. It's not insecurity, that's like saying you're an insecure swimmer when you take a life vest on a boat.

Dude, you have no need for a life vest. Your boat doesn't leave the shore.

P.S. I lost my passport. If you can help me get outta here you'll be handsomely rewarded. I have ten trillion Zimbabwean Dollars in my bank account...

[smilenbseen]

You seem to be saying a guy should jump into a relationship fall deeply in love and then when they break up for whatever reason he mopes around for weeks or months not knowing what to do with themselves... Because that is the normal guy for you. All of my friends act exactly like that, and when I tell them what I do they're like yeah I should do that but normally it never happens because humans are creatures of habit. If you wanna be some chump that gets his heart broken all the time that's fine with me, but don't pretend to know what you're talking about. I know how to get a girl, I know how to fall in love, I know how to treat a girl like shit and treat her good at the same time so I don't lose her, and I know when to break up with a girl. Now I agree that everyone has to change things to fit there personality, but I do not agree with doing things like the average chump and falling in love with her cuz she seems great or her pussy tastes like candy. I know there's always going to be a better girl out there, I KNOW, unlike most guys who may think they know but then try to win the old girl back or make compromises that are just way above and beyond what should be normal. I have no problem being "the bad guy" because as the bad guy I get a ton more from the girl as when I was the good guy.

[TrueStory]

Smilenbseen has a point but there are different ways to go about that.

To him it's finding things that are wrong about the girl he's dating,

to me it's never getting into monogamous relationship, because, I don't believe in such.


I think what most AFCs are missing is strong will to walk away. They let emotions get in the way and act like a bunch of sissies.

Because of their insecurities and self doubt, rejection from a girlfriend is devastating to their egos.

A man of value knows his value and he knows that nobody can undermine it.

[smilenbseen]

I don't think anyone could have put it better. Now I don't find things wrong with all girls, but if I start to think that a girl is perfect then I go hunting for things. I do believe in semi-monogomous relationships. I believe that if you have an urge you should do it but do it safely. I'm actually going out with a friend of mine this weekend who just had a girl put him through hell, there was probably 20 times he should've ended it but never did. She put a restraining order on him, then she came back to him cuz she said it was a mistake, luckily at that time I told him she needs to take that off regardless if she wants to see him or not so he doesn't get arrested. Then he bought her an Acura TL, DUMB DUMB DUMB, then he got engaged, then he caught her with a guy, then they broke up (but she said she wasn't sure what she wanted) then he had trouble getting back the TL. Ok so that's the extremely short version, from the beginning I told the guy don't be stupid this girl is not the one just use her for what you can. In the end he was used. I used to be somewhat like him so I know what it feels like, and I'm not sure how I changed... but I knew enough that it had to be done so that I had a better life. Find what works for you to make sure that the girl doesn't have the upper hand, if you get married well then maybe you're saying at that point I'm putting faith into the relationship. If not then relax, enjoy life, and don't be the average chump who is visibly distraught for weeks or months which makes it impossible to get another girl to help sexual frustration....

[TrueStory]

Good point Smilenbseen,

We kind of got off topic, the point of the whole "story" was to tell guys to "Walk away"

Often, many AFCs cannot see relationship from inside out. They have to see this out in. Like you've seen people having eye opening experiences when they see their stories written out like i did.

There is a disparate need to have a girlfriend that many guys carry around. I never understood what's so important about having a girlfriend, but I guess it was validation.

"Not having a girlfriend = not being a man" mentality makes it so much difficult to walk away.

The "co-dependent" relationship is what psychologists call this phenomenon. I studied a great deal of psychology as my major, and relationships was my concentration.

Yeah good point.

Nobody is perfect and it's a very healthy mindset to have; this prevents idolizing and idealizing. You just did a good job explaining what you meant by "seeing something wrong with girls"; typically those qualities become apparent when idealistic illusion fades away, and guys see their girlfriends for what they are. You just know how to see their true self before you get too committed.

I also wholeheartedly support your notion that man must ALWAYS have an upper hand. That's biologically pre-determined anyways. Women are emotional creatures. Often, they need a strong mate to "put them in check". Emotionally weak men, typically insecure ones that lack leadership, allow women get an upper hand in relationship;

However, even though a man have upper hand in relationship, there is a BIG DIFFERENCE between insecure controlling freak and emotionally strong and confident man.

First one users force and fear to control his woman or women. The second one uses his confidence and alpha-leadership to lead his woman or women.

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sorry made it so long

[Sarge in Charge]

You seem to be saying a guy should jump into a relationship fall deeply in love and then when they break up for whatever reason he mopes around for weeks or months not knowing what to do with themselves...

How did you extrapolate this from my post? This "discussion" is one of degrees, not absolutes. And your defensive attachment to the latter is quite revealing.

but I do not agree with doing things like the average chump and falling in love with her cuz she seems great or her pussy tastes like candy.

Agreed.

We kind of got off topic, the point of the whole "story" was to tell guys to "Walk away"

Often, many AFCs cannot see relationship from inside out. They have to see this out in. Like you've seen people having eye opening experiences when they see their stories written out like i did.

There is a disparate need to have a girlfriend that many guys carry around. I never understood what's so important about having a girlfriend, but I guess it was validation.

"Not having a girlfriend = not being a man" mentality makes it so much difficult to walk away.

The "co-dependent" relationship is what psychologists call this phenomenon. I studied a great deal of psychology as my major, and relationships was my concentration.

Again, agreed.

Nobody is perfect and it's a very healthy mindset to have; this prevents idolizing and idealizing. You just did a good job explaining what you meant by "seeing something wrong with girls"; typically those qualities become apparent when idealistic illusion fades away, and guys see their girlfriends for what they are. You just know how to see their true self before you get too committed.

Excellent point. Dropping the pedestal from your thoughts is downright necessary. Like I always say - be a buyer, not a seller! See her for what she really is and THEN make up your mind.

BUT if you've already made your mind up BEFORE that point, and you merely search for things to re-inforce an existing paradigm then you're just on the flip side of the same coin. Instead of pursuing a romanticised notion of love, you're avoiding an equally idealistic notion of pain.

Pleasure and pain. Relationships have the potential for both. Protection from one does not make you any less and AFC than pursuit of the other.

Know who you are. Know what you want. And by all means, never compromise that knowledge just for one pussy. Rumour has it there's billions of them...