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Old 08-08-2008, 10:55 AM
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It's too early to go changing your life around her. Funny you say that, because I'm in a similar situation. I just moved back to this area, and haven't found a job yet. My girl works full time so I'm bending around her schedule more than she's bending around mine, which is not a good precedent. We talked and agreed that she would spend the night at my place just as much as I spend the night at hers, and so on, and it's been way better since then. I reminded her that my last relationship, things were very imbalanced and that's exactly why I was avoiding another one. I told her outright that I'd rather be single than be treated like that again.

I'm not looking to be king in the relationship. I want an equal partnership and I told her that.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:10 AM
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you say "I'm not looking to be king in the relationship. I want an equal partnership and I told her that."

I think you have to be careful here.

In all my experience, the man has to assume some kind of dominant role in the relationship. It's never a 50/50 type relationship that you have with your regular friends.

It's more of like man is always leading from a position of higher value. I learned some things/patterns that have worked in the past and this is definately one of them.
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Old 08-08-2008, 11:38 AM
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True, I agree with that. I just have to remind myself to make sure I have the frame.
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Old 08-08-2008, 12:15 PM
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Let me tell you a story that really influenced me once:

I have this friend that is super confident, super easy going, cool, not emotionally reactive seeking but not cocky or arrogant, always in a great mood.

He started dating this really cool girl. Girl that was definitely out of my league (even now).

So we're sitting in his office, and its about 8pm, and she calls him to see if he can pick her up cuz she's in some remote location, and she was pleading for him to do it, etc.
He told her, "I can't, I'm very busy - just take car service or taxi"

I know I would've been like "Yes, I will come and get you ASAP!" so I really amazed by his attitude to her.

Well now they're married and I'm pretty sure will always be with his strong frame.

So I always remember this example whenever I think about what to do (not always of course).
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Old 08-25-2008, 12:47 PM
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Great post, cane. I'm a noob and and this was the first thread I've seen and it's already helped so much.
I do have a specific question that involves this smothering.
I've been in a relationship for over a year and it has just ended due to the fact that my LTR needs her "independence." After reading through this thread I realized that this was probably the cause of too much smothering on my part. I was always kissing her and showing her affection and grabbing her while she did the dishes and all that, always hanging out when we didn't really have anything to do. Now I know better, but I want to get her back so I can show her that I am a prize and that she wants me.

I broke down a few times calling her talking about this split asking to see her and trying to work something out with no prevail, so I just recently stopped calling here and after about three days, she's sms me:
"Is it bad that I miss you.?"
I want her back, but how long should I try and ignore her and once I do respond, what will keep her interested and coming back for more? I don't want to let her feel that she can have me whenever she wants but I don't want to push her away completely invoking her to find someone else.

Hope this isn't a lame first post.
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Old 08-26-2008, 10:47 AM
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Write back. "i knew you would. Bad? that depends... "
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:08 PM
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I've been hanging out with this one girl for a few weeks now. When we started hanging out I honestly didn't think too much of her because she's younger than the normal woman I usually try and get with. I am fairly experienced with girls around her age and I understand somewhat what she's going through. I live in a town where getting completely hammered on the weekends is normal.

We hooked up randomly one day, I wanted to have her come to a beach party with me because my one of my ex g/f's was there. She's married now but she still tries to flirt and give me those "fuck me" eyes where ever we are regardless if the hubby is around of not. I wanted this girl to come and be my wing that afternoon so hubby wouldn't think I was there just to see my ex. The day takes a turn for the worse as I realize that no one was at the beach we were supposed to meet at. I thought this was a disaster because I brought this girl out of town to go to a beach and meet many of my friends who would be anxious to see me. We ended up staying on the beach for a good hour just talking a laughing. This girls got the most amazingly screwed up sense of humor you've ever heard. She's not one of those typical "oh a broke a nail", or "that gross I can't drink beer" kinda woman that are annoying to no end. I realized just how cool she was with everything. When my boys finally did show up I realized this place was a sausage fest. There must have been 20 guys to 6 girls. She was a stranger to most everyone except for maybe a few people. She handled the situation with ease and didn't complain when I left her sitting with about 10 drunk guys around her when I went to go play some volleyball.

We laughed all night and as the night progressed the sexual tension started to raise. She started giving me all the signs of a woman that wanted to get together right then and there but I wasn't going to jump on her quite yet. We ended up making out by the end of the night. I told her that I was going to have to "tell someone what happened", because I was seeing someone else at the time. However that was just a random piece of ass that didn't want anything more than a good bang once and awhile.

We started hanging out and feeling each others vibes out a little bit. We talked fairly often about how we both don't want to be in a relationship and everything but we are compatible to say the least. I wasn't really sure how much I liked her until I went out one night with the guys and we met these two very attractive women. We convinced them to come out with us (didn't take much) and we were off. She was sitting in my lap and I was feeling up her beautiful legs/ass. She kept on looking at my with lust in her eyes and I knew what was going to happen when we stopped. We got in the party and made the rounds, it was fairly small and not too many people knew that I was seeing that "cool" girl. I had the opportunity to cheat on her with someone that was totally my type. Short, brown hair, nice legs, round ass and a smile that would brighten up the night. I turned her down, I was in the room with her and when she started to take my clothes off I walked out. It took me about 2 minutes to realize what the hell I just did, I turned down random sex with a beautiful woman, at a party where no one would rat me out. I felt like crap for doing so until I seen my girl. Then I realized I made the right decision.

Fast forward to the next weekend. Theres a big end of summer social going on. Most of the town is out and ready to party hard. The booze is flowing and the skirts are short. My girl wants to go to this event, I tell her to have fun. She pleads with me to come but I would rather chill with a few close friends at the house and I'm not in the mood to get hit on all the time. I knew that this would be a test for her. I knew that there would be guys that would be pulling out all the stops to get with her that night. I knew that I had to let her figure this out on her own. I wasn't sure if we were in a relationship or just f-buddies, and I wanted her to be sure. She text'd me a couple times during the night, telling me to come and get her. She said "these guys are trying to get me", I told her I'd get her after the bar closed. When I seen her she was completely hammered. The game less guys just tried to buy her drinks to her panties to come off. I wasn't really impressed at the sight. She told me that she was thinking about hooking up with a guy that night. She told me she was right drunk and she needed to get out of here. She was totally happy to see me and begged me to take her home and have my way with her. She was flirting all night with these guys and they were mad at the sight of me (prolly spent a pretty penny trying to get her drunk haha). I wasn't sure how to play it. I didn't show any emotion when
they came up to her and said goodbye. They weren't being rude or anything and I told the guy who she was with coming out "thanks for looking after her tonight". I didn't ask her if she made out with anyone, I didn't act like a jealous b/f dragging her to the car. I tried to play it as calmly as I possibly could.

I figure I had it coming to a certain degree. She needed me there, and I chose not to be. I wasn't there for her because in my mind I felt like I needed to let her see those opportunities, needed to let her be tempted. I wanted her to be in that environment, as screwed up as that sounds. I was in that environment a week earlier. I knew that I cared about her and she was cool and stuff, but I didn't realize how much until I turned down that other one. When I held out just because I didn't want to hurt her I thought that she had to go through some "trial by fire" to realize it as well.

The next morning we had a talk about it. She told me that she didn't want to go out without me again. She said I need you there to show that I'm her man and if they want her they have to go through me.

Am I somewhat upset that she was flirting fairly hard with other guys? Yes, it bugged me a little bit. But if she seen me the previous week with that other women she would have gotten a fair bit jealous too. I am a master at communicating on a different level. I was able to tell her that if she fucked around on me that would be it... without saying it. She was embarrassed and felt bad about it, but I don't expect miracles out of an 18yr old. I just like spending time with her, and the feeling is mutual.

I'm not sure how this stacks up with other peoples game. It was an experiment on my part. Hopefully it works out, I dig this girl and she hasn't done anything as of yet to make me like her less.
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Old 08-27-2008, 03:36 PM
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Write back. "i knew you would. Bad? that depends... "
Thanks Phateless. You got text game. It worked like a charm and spiraled into me being on top of the situation.
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Old 08-28-2008, 08:09 AM
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welcome! and thanks.
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