Not qualifying herself

Pavlov · #1 (**permalink**) 12-15-2007, 02:36 AM

I had generated massive amounts of attraction and started to qualify but my target just wasn't qualifying herself. I tried very guided questions; "you look really artistic, but something tells me you don't unleash all that creativity at work. You must have some awesome hobbies" I tried very vague questions "If you looked like everyone else in this room, what would make you stand out".

Such good hooks, but she would not bite. Could not answer in a creative way. I ended up just * closing. Was there a need to qualify, or was the M-F attraction implicit in this case? What should I do when she doesn't qualify herself, but it is clear there is attraction. Should I just IOI. This seems shallow, and doesn't seem like a good way to go into comfort.

luv_asa · #2 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 05:51 PM

I had generated massive amounts of attraction and started to qualify but my target just wasn't qualifying herself.

...Such good hooks, but she would not bite.

How sure are you that she was attracted to you? Every girl (so far) that's been attracted to me was glad to qualify herself. What kind of IOIs did you see from her. How many people were in the set? She may have just been smiling at you just to be polite. Are you sure your DHV story attracts her? How many girls has your DHV attracted? Did she give you her number? If so, was her number legit?

You need to know these questions. If don't attract her she's not gonna be hungry for bait. In other words, she's not going to have a reason to qualify herself for someone she doesn't like.

luv_asa · #3 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 06:01 PM

If things don't work out in A3, you have to move back to A2.

You're not taking a step back. Its just that you couldn't take a step forward. -Mystery

Pavlov · #4 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 06:51 PM

It had started out as a two set. IOI's included asking for my name, squeezing my hand, putting her hand on my chest, and various other body language IOI's. I isolated, so I was sure we were in A3.

I ended up skipping A3, *closing, then went straight to C1-C2. Then #closed, with a legitimate #.

Colin · #5 (**permalink**) 12-21-2007, 07:07 PM

Run your attraction game a little tighter. When you DHV it should be grounded to your identity, somewhat revealing a little bit about your character. If she's not biting it's because she feels no need to or she's not comfortable doing so in wich case because maybe you're DHV is transparent and she gets the feeling that your pushing to hard to "get to know her".

Try multi-threading and hitting the main attraction switches a little better. Your hooks aren't bad but they don't need to be directed at her all the time. Find a way to turn them into statements rather than questions. Relax and banter a bit, throw in a takeaway, but if you mix in some qualifyers and comfort stuff in with your DHV stories then it can help make the converstion more organic or "natural".

Nutz · #6 (**permalink**) 12-27-2007, 01:12 PM

Some good advice. Thread subscribed.

Lashram · #7 (**permalink**) 01-03-2008, 04:52 PM

maybe she lacks self confidence and didnt want to put herself "out there".
Guys arent the only ones with anxiety in the game. Ive met some very good looking women with the self confidence of a pimple faced 13 year old nerd - its amazing to me but it happens all the time.

Nutz · #8 (**permalink**) 01-03-2008, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Lashram

maybe she lacks self confidence and didnt want to put herself "out there".
Guys arent the only ones with anxiety in the game. Ive met some very good looking women with the self confidence of a pimple faced 13 year old nerd - its amazing to me but it happens all the time.

Fucking werd! I'm surprised every time I run across a woman like that too!