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Old 11-12-2007, 06:11 AM
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I have been having a problem recently with regards to qualification. As much as I try to figure out what to screen girls on, I keep coming back to the realization that I don't care to screen girls if they are hot enough. Granted, I understand this is a necessary part of the seduction model, but for me, it's tough to come off congruently when I don't care if she's smart, I don't care what she is doing with her life and I really couldn't care less about her dreams. Sounds callous, I know, but all I want out of all of this is to bang lots of hot chicks. This also comes back to something I want to address that I heard in the interview series. I don't get how people claim high-status males always screen girls on other factors besides looks and these guys turn down lots of hot chicks.

I know lots of high-status alphas and alot of them have the same mindset as me, whereas they don't screen for intelligence, or "can you cook" or other nonsense. Does anyone else have experience with how to congruently display a screening frame when in actuality all you need for a girl to qualify herself is be a 10?

I find myself laughing when I hear people say "Beauty is common", as if they've become desensitized and bored of it. I've been to St.Tropez during high season and met super hot runway models, hungout with crazy hot chicks in Moscow, and my last gf was a 10 and I'm still enraptured by beauty. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but even though I know lots of 10s, and I know how dorky they are and how insecure and how HUMAN they are, I'm still just as mesmerized now by them as I was when I was a super AFC and I don't ever see myself saying "She's a 10 but, hmm, she can't cook and she isn't very bright. Next set."

Anyone else have any feelings on this subject.

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Good post, Amorphous. Sounds like you're just having some trouble with inner game. It's not uncommon to be attracted to a girl based on looks alone, and I often forget to qualify the girl as well, but screening girls isn't exactly always turning down girls.

Qualification is just attraction. You're communicating to her that you're of a higher value than her, and that she must display value of equal quantity in order to be with you. In my experience, it also keeps them from getting bored, because you can only DHV so much before they become tired of it.

Plus it's a great precursor to a relationship, since you have established the fact you are unique, precious, and not to be taken for granted. Remember, qualification doesn't necessarily mean you should turn down hot sets just because they are dumb/boring/can't cook. Qualification is just a tool for attraction. Hope that helps.
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It isnt all about her looks. Even though you may find her amazingly attractive, you dont want to show HER that its affecting you. If you do, this lowers your value.

The whole point of qualification is to maintain your higher value because you dont just accept any beautiful girl that walks your way. You have standards. This not only dictates to her that you are a challenge and that you have a lot a beautiful women in your life, but it also allows for rapport building with commonalities, etc.

The whole point is to find her positive aspects besides her looks that you can like her for. If you cant answer "Why do I like this girl?" with something other than "shes hot" then the relationship isnt going far.

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I have been having a problem recently with regards to qualification. As much as I try to figure out what to screen girls on, I keep coming back to the realization that I don't care to screen girls if they are hot enough. Granted, I understand this is a necessary part of the seduction model, but for me, it's tough to come off congruently when I don't care if she's smart, I don't care what she is doing with her life and I really couldn't care less about her dreams. Sounds callous, I know, but all I want out of all of this is to bang lots of hot chicks. This also comes back to something I want to address that I heard in the interview series. I don't get how people claim high-status males always screen girls on other factors besides looks and these guys turn down lots of hot chicks.

I know lots of high-status alphas and alot of them have the same mindset as me, whereas they don't screen for intelligence, or "can you cook" or other nonsense. Does anyone else have experience with how to congruently display a screening frame when in actuality all you need for a girl to qualify herself is be a 10?

I find myself laughing when I hear people say "Beauty is common", as if they've become desensitized and bored of it. I've been to St.Tropez during high season and met super hot runway models, hungout with crazy hot chicks in Moscow, and my last gf was a 10 and I'm still enraptured by beauty. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but even though I know lots of 10s, and I know how dorky they are and how insecure and how HUMAN they are, I'm still just as mesmerized now by them as I was when I was a super AFC and I don't ever see myself saying "She's a 10 but, hmm, she can't cook and she isn't very bright. Next set."

Anyone else have any feelings on this subject.

-Amorphous


haha,

as far as the "beauty is common" bit--I've only ever seen or used it online when trying to qualify.

Of course, it is a "canned" question.


It's just to get you through that particular stage.


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Hmmm... according to Mystery, those who go straight from attraction to sex are not PUA's at all, but rather just players. Maybe you're just a player, bro. No offense meant, but maybe you're not really into the "gaming" aspect, but just want to get laid.
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If you consider your self a real PUA then you will learn to notice things you like about her, I personally, look for many aspects in a woman hottness is only one. FYI if you only want to fuck hot girls then she'll pick up on that. Major DLV.

u will learn its part of life.
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If you consider your self a real PUA then you will learn to notice things you like about her, I personally, look for many aspects in a woman hottness is only one. FYI if you only want to fuck hot girls then she'll pick up on that. Major DLV.

u will learn its part of life.
I agree whole-heartedly! I love hanging around women, even if I'm not considering gaming them, just because I like the way they do things, or say things, or how they think. I guess you could almost say they fascinate me. But more to the point, I don't find it all that hard to find positive things to say about nearly any women, even ug's.
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Well, alot of this "game" is tactical, and qualifying is part of that. Girls wanna fuck but they also want a lot of other shit to. You can play with "FRAMES" and qualify her to those frames, one of them is sexuality.

You gotta have some "talk" game though ie: qualify&comfort. If you ever check out Captain Jacks, Sinns, or El Topo's blogs they go into it a bit more.

A lot of it is super tight calibration and setting "FRAMES". You are still gonna have to qualify her to whatever frame you create. But first you're gonna have to generate attraction and figure out WHY this girl should fuck you. Part of that is getting her "comfortable" with expressing herself sexually and not think you're a creep.

What will kill you though is if you are "SEXUALLY" NEEDY. Remember, HOT girls have options so you're gonna have to connect on certain levels, but that doesn't mean it's always gotta be superficial stuff.

PS: If you're running tight game then you can get lay's super quik without "fools-mate". Like I said, if you ever read any of the LR or check out the blogs from the instructors you'll see it. The original MM model is a great foundation but there's a lot of areas that are always tweaked and tightened up.
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If you consider your self a real PUA then you will learn to notice things you like about her, I personally, look for many aspects in a woman hottness is only one. FYI if you only want to fuck hot girls then she'll pick up on that. Major DLV.

u will learn its part of life.
it's honestly not that tough to fake 'genuine ' interest.
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if you're able to interact with a girl long enough to have sex with her, without hating her, you're probably bantering back and forth with her a bit, you probably feel pretty damn comfortable around her, you will probably notice certain mannerisms of hers... qualify her on these
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