Qualification

[Sinn]

Warning this is extremely long and dense.


One of the major problems I notice in students weekend after weekend, is the inability to qualify in a manner that is convincing to women.


So in order to hopefully rectify this I have written this post.

First a definition of qualification for those who are unaware of such things and the reasons that we need to qualify.

In the attraction phase, we the PUA Demonstrate value and attributes of an attractive man and the woman rewards us with indicators of interest. Qualification is its mirror opposite, where we will entice her to demonstrate value so that we can reward her with indicators of interest.

The reason behind this is as follows. Women become attracted to men ALL the time. Re-read that sentence 100 times. A woman doesn’t have the time necessary to get to know every guy she is attracted to. So when you have good attraction game, you will be able to get a woman’s REAL phone number in a short amount of time. However when you call her the next day, this is the difference in thinking between men and women.

PUA: She gave me her number it’s on.
Woman: Yeah he was attractive but why would I see him again? Why is he calling me he doesn’t even know anything about me, he must just want sex. I don’t feel like having sex. I’m not going to call him back.

Or Buyer’s Remorse as it has been called many times.

However if you can convince a woman that you like her for reasons other than her looks and sexuality, she will be motivated to see you again. Ideally you will develop actual standards and find things that you actually like in the particular girl.

So the old way that we did this was through the use of the Bait-Hook-Reel-Release model.

Now a quick word. If you have a proper conversational ratio, meaning that she is speaking about 40% of the time by now, she should be giving you things about herself that you can qualify her for. You can also qualify arbitrarily by telling the entire group that they are cool or fun.

When she has not given you reasons to qualify her and you can tell she is attracted, you will want to bait her to tell you cool things about herself. You can do this through the use of questions or statements.

In the beginning you want to make the hoops small and innocuous. When I took my initial program many years ago, Mystery just taught us to ask “ what you have going for you more than your looks.” That is what I call a large hoop. And even if a woman is attracted she may refuse to answer that question as out of the blue it is too big of a compliance request. I noticed that as I was in field girl would answer it most of the time, but sometimes it would not go over. At the time I was reading a lot of sales lit and I learned about the concept of a yes-ladder. Basic idea is that the more someone says yes the more likely they are to say yes in the future. I applied this to qualification by starting with smaller qualification hoops leading to medium sized hoops and ending with the large hoop “ What do you have going for you besides your looks.”

Small hoops are any question that presents a stereotype that a woman wants to be seen as. She should be able to answer yes to this question with little or no thinking. Some examples are “ Are you adventurous, Are you smart, are you a good friend?”

Medium hoops require a little more thinking and are actually where you will find out if your qualification is taking or not. Some examples are “what nationality are you? What do you want to be when you grow up?” It’s here that a woman can if uninterested stop the qualification by not answering or giving a slow answer such a s” I’m a mutt.”

Side note, a woman will not answer a qualification question for one of two reasons. One she is not attracted. These answers will be short and succinct. Like “I don’t know”. The other reason is that she sees you as an authority and doesn’t want to say something to make herself seem less cool. If she is making an effort to answer the question, you need to reward her.

Large hoops are blatantly qualifying questions where she will realize she is qualifying herself but do it anyway because she has already invested earlier.

So the old model required us to bait with a question and would sometimes sound like a job interview as you pummeled the girl with questions. So the first mistake to correct is only asking questions. Any question can be turned into a statement fairly easily. For example let’s say I want to find out what nationality a girl is. I could ask, “What nationality are you?” Or I can say, “ You look very German.” And wait for her to either agree or disagree. You get the exact same information, at which point you need to give her an indicator of interest or compliment if you want to be normal.

Qualification will be the first point in the interaction where you can start to hit on the girl. So as soon as she answers the question, we reward her with a compliment. For example “ OMG you’re German! I love German girls, my ex-fiancé was German and we went over there and traced her whole family tree. It’s such a cool culture.

The compliment should be non-generic and non-physical. The more in-depth and specific you can be, the more qualified she will feel.


In the old model, the next step was to release by throwing a small IOD like “ can’t even talk to you anymore.” Then return to normal conversation. This is where guys get into trouble most of the time and the main reason why I felt the need to write this post. You DON”T need to release every time. In fact if you follow this cycle dogmatically the girl will even notice it. You may even have girls respond to I can’t talk to you by saying ok.

The key to releasing is to do it ONLY when a woman feels uncomfortable with you hitting on her. If she is accepting your compliments and likes them then there is NO reason to release it and it will seem fake. So the release in my model has been changed to a tease and it still remains at the end of the cycle but this time there is a piece before the release. And that piece is asking a rapport question.

One of the main reasons that guys have problems being able to qualify girls is that they go in with the intention of trying to qualify a girl. Instead of actually trying to find out what is cool about the girl. So when you BHRR without exploring the topic of conversation, it comes across as fake. If you were really that interested in her nationality you would probably ask a question like “ Have you ever been to Germany” etc…


The more actual interest you can show here the better.


Now onto to releases. The best way to release is to throw in a non-sequitor tease. Something along the lines of “ Too bad your such a dork!” The point of a release is to pop the bubble of tension that has been created by hitting on her. This makes her more comfortable as you have released the tension created by hitting on her. But remember you don’t have to do it every time. Only when she appears uncomfortable with you hitting on her. Generally with a bigger IOI. Another way of releasing tension on smaller hoops (Which get smaller IOIs BTW) is to structure a challenge to her quality.

PUA: Are you adventurous?
Girl: Yeah Totally
PUA: Awesome I love adventurous people. There’s just so much more fun. What’s the most adventurous thing you’ve ever done? Don’t say running with scissors.
Girl: One time I went skydiving


The last thing I want to talk about is the idea of continuous qualification. Meaning that comfort and qualification and later on relationship and qualification are going to cycle. You will need to keep giving her reasons that you like her FOREVER. So when you are stuck for things to say on a date or 10 year into your marriage tell the girl why you like her.

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[HG10]

nice! Thanks, good read, I actually felt a little odd about using that "What do you have going for you more than your looks," especially in daytime.

I've also done a release by IOIing and then just moving the convo on so it just doesn't drop and hang there

[Snak9r]

You, my friend had just painted a much MUCH clearer picture for "release"
Tbh, I never really understood the logic of releasing every time.

[Face]

One of the best ways to release without the old "I can hang with you anymore" line is simply to disqualify yourself. However, do it in a way that allows you to circle back later (after she has qualified) and re-introduce yourself as available.

For example, if you say you are married, gay, or a priest..it's gonna be tough to suddenly become available 30 minutes later after you determine you actually do/could like this girl. But if you say:

1) You are waiting for a girl to meet
2) You are thinking of moving b/c you got a great (DHV) job offer
3) You have to leave soon for (some super cool) reason
4) etc

Even things like cursing, telling a fart story or the like....will disqualify yourself. When a girl hears a guy tell a story about an "inappropriate" topic, she will innately surmise he is not hittting on her. This is the goal here. But once she qualifies, you have to be able to get back in and show her that not only are you available, but you are interested as well.

I routinely will approach, open, FTC, neg, disqualify myself...and then have a normal conversation. In the girls' minds, I am some friendly, witty guy who is just being cool. A few minutes later, they are answering every question and asking me about myself. This is what we want. We don't need to "trick" girls into liking us..we just want a way to open a hot girl and find out if we are compatible.

And qualifying, IMO, is the #1 most important in any sarge. ONS, LTR--it ALL starts with mutual qualification.

[mild_seven]

Originally Posted by Sinn

The best way to release is to throw in a non-sequitor tease. Something along the lines of “ Too bad your such a dork!” The point of a release is to pop the bubble of tension that has been created by hitting on her. This makes her more comfortable as you have released the tension created by hitting on her.

Beautifully put, my man. I have found this SO important in my pickups. I tried releasing with a seemingly serious IOD (like "I can't even talk to you anymore" + back turn), and the girl would often just walk away, or just stand there confused until *I* turned back around. First I thought it was a cultural/linguistic difference here in Japan, but what you've said supports what I've experienced. I've found it so much more useful to release with an obvious TEASE rather than a seemingly sincere IOD.

Props to you for taking this stuff to this next level. I really get the feeling that you are not a disciple of the method but rather someone who keeps the method accountable and adapts it when necessary.

[PhilosopherKing]

And to underscore the importance of qualification, I have found it quite common for HB9+'s to say that they think their beauty is almost a curse. (Almost, but not quite.) That they sometimes think it would be better if they were more average looking because they could then tell more easily which guys really liked them and which just wanted sex. The same girls have quite seriously told me that they think every guy they know (including the married ones and ones in LTRs) would have sex with them if given the chance. So many guys flunk out with qualification with these women that if you don't you will definitely be special to her in some way. (Might not get you laid, but...)

Qualification is a big problem for me. I guess it's an inner game thing. Much of the stuff they tell me to qualify themselves just doesn't seem like a big deal to me. And they can probably tell that's what I am thinking. Certainly the more the woman has going for her in areas that I value, the easier qualification becomes. In fact, in some cases it just happens naturally, and inevitably and you don't even have to think about it. In other cases, qualification seems nearly impossible.

Can qualification be faked? Long enough to get laid (barring Fool's Mate)?

[PhilosopherKing]

Another note on qualification (though it is, perhaps, obvious or has been said before):

Qualifying HSE girls seems easier than LSE girls. I suspect that with the latter they have trouble believing that guys could like them for something other than their looks. For HSE girls, OTOH, it is easier to qualify them because they, of course, know they have lots going for them besides their looks. So it's not a big stretch for them to imagine the guy digging them for their non-looks qualities.

This is another reasons I think MM works better on HSE and intelligent women than on LSEs.

[DjSuperman717]

great post sinn
thank you for reminding me about what qualification is all about
im trying to put together a solid day game routine
so far i have

open
qualify
instant date or plan for a day 2 and number close

im having a hard time with chicks who are working like cashiers and stuff because there is a major time constraint from all the people standing in line behind me

what do you think?

Learn more on your day game

[Networker]

Sounds like Juggler method stuff The more I read, the more i see that underlying all methods follow a basic common theme. Good post!!

Networker

(not a negative comment, just an observation that I don't have time to expand on).

[TheVoid]

Great post!

I initially thought that when you compliment then do a takeaway, that creates a gravity or vacuum for her to chase.