Adam Lyons - Reviews (Cumulative) - Page 2 - The Attraction Forums

sperkgs · #11 (**permalink**) 08-23-2008, 02:49 PM

I have never attended one of his bootcamps, but I did purchase his ebook and did not like it. It was just a rehash of what everyone else puts out (and I have alot of them - DYD, Wygant, Swingcat, Thundercat - all great stuff). In addition, his offering is not really different than anybody else and really does not offer anything in the way of pure technique and application areas in which I really need help. So I requested as he advertises that if you are not satisfied, you will get your money back - guaranteed. Well I contacted him a couple of times and I never heard back once - not once. When I tried to return sometime to David Deangelo that I was not happy with - he took it back no questions asked within his required time frame - a very honorable guy. So, I still have the Lyons ebook.

Vapor · #12 (**permalink**) 08-26-2008, 07:32 AM

I don't understand how having a girlfriend justifies not doing approaches. Lots of dating coaches have girlfriends. Flirting with various girls for a few minutes is not cheating by any stretch of the imagination.

Savoy · #13 (**permalink**) 08-26-2008, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chris3

To add perspective here. Shash was an aproach coach and a guest speaker on my bootcamp, He was also an apraoch coach and a geust speaker on the london (august 10) bootcamp with lovesystems. (please check reviews) So I personaly feel you are not going to get better teaching for cheaper anywere at the moment than with AFC adam. Get it while it is cheap.

It is absolutely not true that you get Love Systems instructors at any other program. The core Love Systems instructor team, which uses our proprietary techniques and where I manage quality control - does not teach outside of Love Systems programs.

Occasionally, we may bring a guest speaker or we may try someone out to see what potential they have to be an instructor down the road or even among friends we may observe each others' bootcamps, but "Slash" was EXTRA to the bootcamp, IN ADDITION to enough trained and registered Love Systems instructors to manage a 1:3 instructor:student ratio at least.

Thanks guys.

houstondemarco · #14 (**permalink**) 08-26-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vapor

I don't understand how having a girlfriend justifies not doing approaches. Lots of dating coaches have girlfriends. Flirting with various girls for a few minutes is not cheating by any stretch of the imagination.

I will post the full review of the miami bc soon.

At the beginning I was kind of skeptic about his "no demo" policy.Until he dominated without any magic of manipulative tricks a set of 4 hot girls at the delano in sobe just with his story telling,expressibility and presence.

Someone like him doesn't need any tonadoes,funman jokes,nimbus , cyclones and other clownesque moves.

To be good with women you can be a great manipulator or a great man...... I have learned the second by myself .What adam and amanda did was just let us know that its ok to show the world what your real you is about.

Paolo

sperkgs · #15 (**permalink**) 08-27-2008, 03:05 PM

AFC Adam could be a radio star. I have been listening to Thundercat's bootycasts on his website for the last couple of weeks and the chemistry between he, AFC Adam, Amanda and the assorted guests is very entertaining. AFC Adam is a radio natural - very funny and his cockney-type accent is awesome. Thundercat plays the ring leader while the rest talk about certain topics and go off on funny tangents. Kind of Howard Stern like but more lighthearted and just plain funny. If someone were to properly syndicate this group - say late night radio after 10pm, I think you have a hit on your hands. Funny and entertaining group.

houstondemarco · #16 (**permalink**) 08-27-2008, 04:45 PM

First a little background on me.

I am 37 years old personal trainer and future financial analyst.

I had a lot of success with hot women in the past , but only because for some reasons they were choosing me not vice versa like is supposed to be.
One day I meet a hot successful and independent woman who love everything I love .Perfect!!
Until she finds out my chodeness and my neediness.
She dumps me.Total devastation.

Getting ready for a natural bodybuilding contest my trainer finds out my troubles with my ex suggested me to search for info about a certain cocky and funny guy.

Since then I have read almost all mainstream pua stuff,watched pua products,listened mp3s in my car etc.

One year and I was ready for the next step:

a Bootcamp.

not being able to spend more than 2000$ I had only two choices.

A mainstream social company owned by a "fight club" character or |||||||||||.

We met in a south beach hotel.I was very surprised of adam approachability and friendliness.
No guru attitude watsoever.

My other concern was about the student-instructors ratio untill 2 more instructors(from the south florida lair) joined us.

The ratio was 1-1!!!

The other students were cool and successfull guys not weird social misfits.

After introductions were coupled with a wing and 2 instructors por couple.

My wing was Abraham a realtor and former jet sky racer.Cool and smart guy whose (apparent)problem was not opening but keping a conversation going.
My problrm instead was opening , so we were perfect together.

Our instructors were psych and Dan from the Florida Lair.

While Adam and Amanda were supervising and helping actively everybody around.

Night game:

Delano a taugh spot .

I was terrified to open .I got to do it and...boom sets open like butter under a hot knife.eject.

sets sets sets until we are called by Adam and Amandawho force us to open a sit down set sitting far away from another table.

Hey!!Set opens!!we go to join them but..they speak french and the convo gets ridicolously boring..eject.

Outside we open two argentinian cougars with retarded Elvis opener that we cut off to sit down with them and forget about it.After few minutes Adam and Amanda start dancing Magarena near the set to show me I should start kino with my model looking cougar who was ridicolously attracted.
After 20 min of shy kino+ talking my awesome wing help to eject so I can get the ph# and day two on the spot without wasting more time:"we are late for our meeting.Remember?"Glorious.

Back inside.Extremely hot hb10 dressed in white walks by I am paralized.She is walking towards the exit .Psych pushes me to her .I chicken out.She goes to the toilet instead of leaving...Time out for team Psych-Paolo-Dan-Abraham.

Adam tells me to wait outside the toilets talking to my wing.The angel flyes out of there.Gotta do it!!
She is going toward the exit.She looks bitchy.I dont care anymore...cant miss her..Tap tap behind she turns and smiles"hi" "hi" small talk she is drunk as hell .Chode fat guy and other hb10 girlfriend drag her out.

Success for me .Never opened a moving set from behind.

Few more sets and end of day one.

To be continued....

hammerlammer · #17 (**permalink**) 10-23-2008, 07:26 PM

I wasn't able to resond to the original Adam thread, so I started a new one. To make sense of this post, read the original one.

Hey Chris3, I almost shit tmyself when I read your post. I took Adam's BC in Toronto and Kyle was my wing! I agree with almost everything in your review.

Adam is lying about Kyle though. The reason why Kyle was at that Chicago BC was because he wasn't gaming worth a shit in Toronto. I told Adam how I felt in a personal e-mail about the overall experience and how Kyle especicially should've got more out of the experience. Kyle is a really nice guy, him and I still talk and I wanted more for him.

Any how, He re-assurred me that kyle would get a free seat at the upcoming Chicago BC, and that is why he was there, not because he was "instructor material". Adam also gave me a follow up phone call as well, which impressed me.

On a personal level, Adam is a real cool guy and I would love to hang out with him anytime. Unfortunately, his teaching style sucks although I have seen him generate attraction like a mad man. His PU skills are undoubtedly off the charts, but I don't recommend taking his BC. I truly believe Adam cares about the success of his students, he just needs to make some adjustments to his teaching approach and he could be one of the best.

My offer still stands Adam, If you ever make your way to Vancouver, gimme a hollar, I'd be more than happy to help you and Amanda out on a BC.

The Owner- The people's PUA

hammerlammer · #18 (**permalink**) 10-29-2008, 05:13 PM

Two things to clear up.
1) This response was actually to ant80 and not chris3.
2) Ignore the first two sentences, the mod allowed my post to go where it belongs.