Cajun's Online Method - Profiles, Messaging and Closing Techniques

[Cajun]

Originally Posted by shokat

Here is a sample profile I wrote trying to use your points. It is completely different the what I would have written a few years ago. What do you think needs work, add/delete/modify????

-WAY too long. Remember: You don't care! You don't NEED to look for women online. Someone who writes that much obviously cares a lot more than he should.

-WAY too many DHVs. It reads like a resume and 99% of women are going to stop reading after the first few obvious DHVs. Much too braggy. Remember that DHVs have to be SUBTLE. Read my profile, the only DHVs I give are either disguised as DLVs or are based on an image that I know women find attractive. You only need 2-3 big DHVs, and they shouldnt be worded as "Look what I have/ Look what I can do". The bigger the DHV the more humble/oblivious to it being a DHV you have to be.

[leeder]

I'm wondering what Cajun's thoughts are on my idea.

I think that a lot of guys use 'online game' as a way to avoid rejection and never actually develop themselves and always stay an inner-chode

I can just see tons of computer geek nerds trying online-game and never actually become cool guys .... they kind of hide behind the computer and never really face their fears and develop an attractive identidy

I think that to some guys .... it's just another element of their 'virtrual world'

[shokat]

for me online in some ways is harder becuase most women go off pics only. NOw I consider my self a pretty decent good looking guy. But I don't look like Brad Pitt or some underwear model. I can almost guarantee that if a women gives me a chance to be myself and we can get to know eachother that is the easy part. The hard part for me online is how to get their attention. Becuase most of the time my profile sounds pretty cookie cutter. I like to do this, I am looking for this blah, blah, blah, so if my pic doesn't hook them they never respond back. But I know from my experience that any time a girl gives me a chance to open her my game shines. Its just the open and hook that I cant get.

Also any suggestions on some pics. I don't have many with friends or any with girls?

[Cajun]

Originally Posted by leeder

I'm wondering what Cajun's thoughts are on my idea.

I think that a lot of guys use 'online game' as a way to avoid rejection and never actually develop themselves and always stay an inner-chode

I can just see tons of computer geek nerds trying online-game and never actually become cool guys .... they kind of hide behind the computer and never really face their fears and develop an attractive identidy

I think that to some guys .... it's just another element of their 'virtrual world'

To me, online game should be used to supplement your existing gaming nights. Since I took the time to write a nice profile and take some nice pics, I now have 2 women per day that are practically served to me on a silver platter. I don't HAVE to meet them, in fact I dont respond back to most, but about once a week an 8+ gets filtered through and thats when it makes it worth it.

In the beginning when I wanted to learn how to master day 2's I turned to online game simply because it allowed me to set up 4 dates a week, every week for 2 months. I let a few 6s slip in just because I wanted the practice and by the end of the 2 months I had mastered how to ace a date, and learned a lot about women in the process.

Its all part of the big picture. If I meet my dream girl I not only want to be able to seduce her in the club, but I want to know how to make her fall head over heels for me during the date. Online gaming enabled me to sharpen those skills, so I have no issues with it.

I use online game now simply for practice and to keep my skills sharp when I'm too busy to go out. Thats how you should all be using it...



It's also good for going whaling....if you're into that. Yar!

[DazedAndConfused]

Originally Posted by Cajun

To me, online game should be used to supplement your existing gaming nights. Since I took the time to write a nice profile and take some nice pics, I now have 2 women per day that are practically served to me on a silver platter. I don't HAVE to meet them, in fact I dont respond back to most, but about once a week an 8+ gets filtered through and thats when it makes it worth it.

In the beginning when I wanted to learn how to master day 2's I turned to online game simply because it allowed me to set up 4 dates a week, every week for 2 months. I let a few 6s slip in just because I wanted the practice and by the end of the 2 months I had mastered how to ace a date, and learned a lot about women in the process.

Its all part of the big picture. If I meet my dream girl I not only want to be able to seduce her in the club, but I want to know how to make her fall head over heels for me during the date. Online gaming enabled me to sharpen those skills, so I have no issues with it.

I use online game now simply for practice and to keep my skills sharp when I'm too busy to go out. Thats how you should all be using it...



It's also good for going whaling....if you're into that. Yar!

Exactly....online gaming allows you to really sharpen your skill set quickly.

[esco]

I'd really like to know what response rate I should be aiming for. I know it's unreasonable to expect to get 100% of your emails responded to, but what should I be aiming for? Is 1-10 good? 1-20? 5-10? Right now I send out maybe 40 emails and eventually end up with 2-3 numbers.

I remember Mystery saying mastery for cold approach is opening and hooking 5 sets in a row. What's the goal to shoot for in terms of response rate?

Thanks!
-Esco

[Cajun]

Originally Posted by esco

I'd really like to know what response rate I should be aiming for. I know it's unreasonable to expect to get 100% of your emails responded to, but what should I be aiming for? Is 1-10 good? 1-20? 5-10? Right now I send out maybe 40 emails and eventually end up with 2-3 numbers.

I remember Mystery saying mastery for cold approach is opening and hooking 5 sets in a row. What's the goal to shoot for in terms of response rate?

Thanks!
-Esco

Obviously the goal would be to get as close to 100% as possible. I VERY rarely actually message women first, but when I do its usually about an 85% response rate.

I aim for 100%.

[spy]

Hey Cajun, thanks for posting on this topic. I was wondering if you'd give me a few pointers on my profile:

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member5090526.htm

I appreciate your help.

Spy.

[Cajun]

Originally Posted by spy

Hey Cajun, thanks for posting on this topic. I was wondering if you'd give me a few pointers on my profile:

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member5090526.htm

I appreciate your help.

Spy.

No problem,

Your last B&W pic should be your main pic. Take out the quotes, quotes are lame. Describe your passions. Paint a picture of your life that is FUN.

You can't just say "im awesome" and expect women to believe you. You're on a dating site so your value starts out LOW.

Again, if you want a template just look at my profile.

[esco]

Obviously the goal would be to get as close to 100% as possible. I VERY rarely actually message women first, but when I do its usually about an 85% response rate.

I aim for 100%.

I don't know if we're allowed to ask two questions, but I think this would benefit most of the people reading this. Right now my response rate is maybe 1-2 out of 10. In fact I sent 5 emails 2 days ago, and none of them got a response.

If you're doing this horrible, how do you go about tweaking to increase response rate? What do you start with? How do you find out what's working and what's not?