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Old 01-23-2007, 11:03 AM
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Hey guys,

I've been wanting to start doing a Q and A session once a week, so, I will answer all GAME related questions for at least an hour and maybe longer depending on how good the questions are.

Start posting now and I will start answering in about 15...

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:09 AM
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Woohoo, free advice lol.
Well I'm really interested in day-game. I noticed long ago that I see so many HBs walking the streets. How, Sinn, would you recommend stopping a girl in her tracks and going for a number close?
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:11 AM
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Cool idea. I'll post in here, is that OK?

Well, I've been trying to crack a particular nutshell with a couple of others in this situation, and we are coming up stumps.

Girls with boyfriends - we all know, and have had sucess, with getting them for one night here and there. Yet, the possibility of anything more than that never seems to become a reality. We have DHV'd, ran tight game, done freeze-outs and jealousy plotlines, ran destroyers, AMOG'd boyfriends and seen the women grow unhappy with their boyfriends. All tactics have worked in some regard. Yet, still they go back to them. It may be an insecurity issue.

There is a quote on p133 of the VAH;

'-'She will almost always choose the man with tighter game and a stronger frame, and she will do it with little regard or loyalty to the fun little connection that she was previously enjoying with you. This is often true even if you are her boyfriend.

The only factor that counteracts this is her level of investment in you - it will be psychologically much more difficult for her to jump to the next man if she has already invested a lot of time and effort into you.'

My question is - girls with boyfriends: are they only really good for the odd night here and there, or is there any real way to try and break their relationship for good (if you have established attraction)?

The problem we have been trying to figure out, is how does one provide comfort (to counter her insecurities) without heading into LJBF-land; yet by maintaining the attraction finding yourself somewhat stalling in A2/A3 - hence nothing ever seems to move forward much.

What are your thoughts?

Many thanks for taking the time, Sinn.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:19 AM
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For moving street sets I recommend going direct

You gotta figure a moving street set has LEGITIMATE time constraints so she will not be able to talk that long I like to use this opener/# close technique;

"Hey i noticed you from across the street etc... and I knew that if i didn't come over here and see if there was more to you than meets the eye, I would be kicking myself all day. I'm Sinn."

Then I qualify briefly and say,

" I really have to go now, but I want to talk to you again, so let's exchange numbers. i promise nothing but good conversation, and if we get along on the phone, maybe we will meet up later. Provided you don't weird me out."

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:20 AM
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Guys, if you don't take advantage of this, you're not serious about your game.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:22 AM
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The girl doesn't necessarily respond to the giuy with tighter game, she responds to the guy who makes her feel better.

So I'd recommend checking out the post on my blog(www.sinnsofattraction.blogspot.com) about Advanced comfort, as the best way to make a relationship happen when she has a BF is to see her the way she truly wants to be seen and make her feel a stronger connection than she feels with him. If you want I can repost the AC post here, but I'd prefer not to as I'm a lazy fuck.

But to directly answer your question several of the instructors former GFs real legit GFs had BFs when they met them. So they are not just good for an odd night here or there.

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:24 AM
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When running standard game (as opposed to micro calibration), how long does it typically take you to get to A3 with high-quality targets?
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:24 AM
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Brilliant, I love it, thanks dude. I've been debating another lately which is where you ask for directions, wait for a response, smile and then say "In fact I know where that is but I just wanted to say hi...I'm (insert name here). I prefer yours though.
Thanks a lot man. I'll leave it there cos I figure you're about to be bombarded with questions.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:27 AM
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Wow, looks like I came online at the right time.

my Q:
I tend to meet a lot of "religious" girls, with whom I have some problems escalating further. i.e due to the unwritten vows of abstinence (from marriage). Far from trying to impose my values on them, I tend to befriend them. What would be your overall approach to dealing with them? Can you circumvent their sexual inhibitions through smooth talking?
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:27 AM
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Not sure if I'm too late but here goes:

I haven't had any problems opening, or hooking in girls, as well as building attraction, most of my material is my own, and some of it is borrowed from random places here on the forums and such, but the one sticking point or problem that I can think of is that sometimes I genuinely have to leave a place or a venue which can be good, and sometimes I will feel the energy start to die down so I will skip out to the next set...but my question is that alot of those times I can tell there is still attraction from the target

how can I somehow number close or email close or something for later in these situations where I either generally have to leave, or I'm just feeling like bouncing around to somewhere else?

I've had just about every single different thing you can imagine happen: the girls say hopefully I run into you later, or I'll facebook you or whatever--it feels like to me that if you go out on a limb and ask for the number there you either show to much interest, or you look needy. (I remember that part of the game with the cat string theory)

Any suggestions for what to do rather than just jumping out there and going for the number on a limb?
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