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01-23-2007, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by energizer Hey Sinn, your blog is daily reading for me - love it!
Ok, enough ass kissing.
Here's my question: I'm often able to flirt, interact with women and transition into DHV's however my ability to hook my target is nowhere near where I'd like it to be. Perhaps she can intuitively sense my feelings of desire for her and that's turning her off?
Second question: From a realistic perspective, how many interactions with women should be going well and follow the general process of see girl, approach, neg, qualify, seed plans, #close or bounce. You're response will help set my bar and give me a realistic target.
Thanks Sinn! Enjoy your visit to Vancouver this weekend! |
Are you disqualifying yourself? I noticed you mentioned transitioning and DHVing which are both great skills, but without disqualifying yourself, she will still be in screening mode where everything you say will lokk like you are trying to impress her. Make sure that you disqualify yourself as a potential suitor then DHV.
Realistically every set should open, gain attraction and get to qualification.
From there it becomes a matter of where she is in terms of what she's looking for and her relationship status. You can # close every set. And every night should lead to at least 1 option. Meaning that you either get a day2 or a bounce.
but really in the begginning you should be focusing on the process not results. That's the best way to learn and avoid burn out.
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01-23-2007, 12:20 PM
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| | | Suggestions for the study-close? Hi Sinn,
Q & A great idea.
Now, when doing street I quite often get instant dates and/or day 2s with tourists in the old town with the following:
Where do you come from?
I am a student and I want to practice your language/English
Then interview style and fishing for non-common commonalities.
Then I usually show them interesting places in old town.
Then cafe, typical wine bar, opera or salsa.
Next day museum or castle.
If everything goes well club myplace.
When they turn out to be "foreigners" living here then I simply do the study close.
By writing it down now I realize this is not advanced stuff but it works. Maybe because it's non-threatening?
Still, suggestions for improvement would be great.
Thanks for your help. | 
01-23-2007, 12:21 PM
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This is a question to which there is no answer, you can't start qualifying her until she is sufficiently attracted, there's no minute by minute account of when she will become attracted. I often start qualifying off the opener. I call it qualification pinging, I'll open and then go " who are you? and you're special because?" even if they don't take it, it shows me where I'm at rather than me having to do dancing monkey attract game that I loathe.
| I found this already helps my question out a bunch.
Plus V for Vendetta, my fuckin most favorite movie right now!
awesome. | 
01-23-2007, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mister E How'd you get started in all this?
Like, what did you do when you were just starting around with this stuff.
You start this with routines or just went on the M3 structure - just open, DHV yourself, Then qualify her -- Then into comfort..Rapport building, then number close and day 2.
I think its like that, if not then damn, I gotta go back and re-do that.
And for someone whose life is a little bit upside down, you would go with fixing that first and then after that is done going to game? |
I started with one opinion opener and going to the mall every day to approach 7 sets. That added up to 49 a week or 50 a week with an extra weekend set.
I had no routines, I had just read DYD and a lot of ASF. My plan was always to get phone #s and go on d2s. I went 6 months before my first lay, then spiraled before taking a program about 6 months after my first cold approach lay.
I think you MUST have your life together to get good at this, but you shouldn't use that as an excuse to not approach. Lifestyle and game are things that should be worked on simultaneously not seperately. You need both IME.
S | 
01-23-2007, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Uncle Bernhard Hi Sinn,
Q & A great idea.
Now, when doing street I quite often get instant dates and/or day 2s with tourists in the old town with the following:
Where do you come from?
I am a student and I want to practice your language/English
Then interview style and fishing for non-common commonalities.
Then I usually show them interesting places in old town.
Then cafe, typical wine bar, opera or salsa.
Next day museum or castle.
If everything goes well club myplace.
When they turn out to be "foreigners" living here then I simply do the study close.
By writing it down now I realize this is not advanced stuff but it works. Maybe because it's non-threatening?
Still, suggestions for improvement would be great.
Thanks for your help. |
Awesome man!
It sounds like everything we teach not to do, but results speak for themselves. My question is ... how often does this lead to you getting laid and or having a girlfriend.
You are on the right track with the multiple venues etc...
I would start opening either direct(on the street) or with an opener anywhere else and start getting some attraction, through negs, dhvs etc.. before building rapport like you are doing. But you mus have some awesome rapport building skills to be making this work...
S | 
01-23-2007, 12:28 PM
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| | | All right guys this has been great, but I gotta run.
I'll try to do this next week if I have internet access in vancouver.
Good luck,
S | 
01-23-2007, 12:35 PM
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| | | Thank you Sinn.
I'll bother you next week
And wow, 20 people viewing this thread | 
01-23-2007, 09:29 PM
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| | | How much should you qualify before going into comfort? and how do you know you're in comfort? | 
01-23-2007, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Sinn All right guys this has been great, but I gotta run.
I'll try to do this next week if I have internet access in vancouver.
Good luck,
S |
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