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01-23-2007, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by phoatu2 I've been at a couple parties/bars where I was a little drunk, K-closed a couple girls within an hour, and got their numbers. Then when I invite them to "tag along" somewere, sometimes it gets a little akward because I don't know wether to apply strong kino, or to just act as if nothing happened. Could I get some advice on how to best manage this situation? Thanks. |
You always want to start the kino from beginng in a new interaction, so you don't come off like you are just trying to get int their pants.
That means that you start off with a hug and look to see if she's ready to kiss again, if not you go back to regular escalation starting with hand touching , leading to hand holding etc...
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01-23-2007, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Sinn You open and FTC, but you tone the negs down, instead you want to banter.
My definition of banter is competent flirting. You are teasing, but she gets that you actually like her. Rather than negs which are meant to convey dis-interest.
there's a great banter thread somewhere on the forum, it might be in the best of.
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01-23-2007, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fisken Hey Sinn
I'd like to hear your take on makeout in the clubs. Good or bad? I find that often I get buyers remorse when I kiss the girl in the club. On the other hand if I don't do it, she leaves and I end up with nothing or a numberclose. And needless to say, the numberclose leaves a very much higher flakeratio.
So what are your thoughts about this? Make out in the club or not? | Depends, I generally go for the makeout in the club as I like to play same night game.
The caveat I would add is don't kiss a girl too early. If you wait at least 25 minutes, you should not be compromising your set, anything sooner than that is what leads to flakes.
Also don't have a full on makeout grope session in the venue. Instead kiss to build comfort. That means a little tongue, but not porno tongue, church tongue. Bonus points if you can tell me what movie that's from.
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01-23-2007, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Sinn Also don't have a full on makeout grope session in the venue. Instead kiss to build comfort. That means a little tongue, but not porno tongue, church tongue. Bonus points if you can tell me what movie that's from.
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01-23-2007, 12:00 PM
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01-23-2007, 12:01 PM
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| | | P2win you already have bonus points.
2nd guy you got.... 2nd place! Yeah 2nd place!
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01-23-2007, 12:02 PM
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Do you have some good comfort building tips? And by that I mean good subjects to talk about in comfort? I usually talk about psychology, school and such things. Are there any good bits you use in comfort that comes to mind?
Great that you are doing this btw, it highly appreciated! | 
01-23-2007, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisken Thanks!
Do you have some good comfort building tips? And by that I mean good subjects to talk about in comfort? I usually talk about psychology, school and such things. Are there any good bits you use in comfort that comes to mind?
Great that you are doing this btw, it highly appreciated! | Comfort buildiong is more about conveying who you are than actual conversational topics, but here are a few I use;
The perfect relationship triangle and how you need passion, commitment and friendship to have a perfect relationship.
Sexual peaks of men and women(men 18, women 32)
The differences between being religious and spiritual
How I am a hedonist
V for Vendetta- I talk about this for like 25 minutes EVERY set
Why I do stand up comedy and my quest to express myself and make people think without coming off preachy.
How I hate pennies
My parents divorce and how my mom is a whore
My friends and minor characters in my life
How she can make her life better and the steps she needs to take to fulfill her dreams.
How she's wasting her life doing whatever she's doing
How much I hate judgemental people
The difference between loving someone and being in love
How awesome my life is and how many fun things I'm doing this week, month and year.
How I'm learning to dunk
etc...
That's just off the top of my head an quite specific to my life, but take what you can from it
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01-23-2007, 12:13 PM
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| | | Hooking Sets Hey Sinn, your blog is daily reading for me - love it!
Ok, enough ass kissing.
Here's my question: I'm often able to flirt, interact with women and transition into DHV's however my ability to hook my target is nowhere near where I'd like it to be. Perhaps she can intuitively sense my feelings of desire for her and that's turning her off?
Second question: From a realistic perspective, how many interactions with women should be going well and follow the general process of see girl, approach, neg, qualify, seed plans, #close or bounce. You're response will help set my bar and give me a realistic target.
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01-23-2007, 12:15 PM
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Like, what did you do when you were just starting around with this stuff.
You start this with routines or just went on the M3 structure - just open, DHV yourself, Then qualify her -- Then into comfort..Rapport building, then number close and day 2.
I think its like that, if not then damn, I gotta go back and re-do that.
And for someone whose life is a little bit upside down, you would go with fixing that first and then after that is done going to game? | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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