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Old 01-23-2007, 11:29 AM
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There's no such thing as standard game.

Even when you are not micro-calibrating consciously, you still have to be watching for IOIs or you're just going to be throwing paint at the proverbial wall.

This is a question to which there is no answer, you can't start qualifying her until she is sufficiently attracted, there's no minute by minute account of when she will become attracted. I often start qualifying off the opener. I call it qualification pinging, I'll open and then go " who are you? and you're special because?" even if they don't take it, it shows me where I'm at rather than me having to do dancing monkey attract game that I loathe.

You only need enough attraction that they will qualify themselves, there is no prize for running the most attraction game or getting more attraction than anyone else. Test to see if they are going to qualify themselves as soon as you can.

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:32 AM
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Sinn,

Do you use Open-FTC-Neg with Day Game?
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:33 AM
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Wow, looks like I came online at the right time.

my Q:
I tend to meet a lot of "religious" girls, with whom I have some problems escalating further. i.e due to the unwritten vows of abstinence (from marriage). Far from trying to impose my values on them, I tend to befriend them. What would be your overall approach to dealing with them? Can you circumvent their sexual inhibitions through smooth talking?

I don't know where you are located in the world, but if a girl ever brings up any of this stuff, it means that she doesn't like you enough. Women are not inherently logical, so these constructs such as religion, abstinence, etc don't jive.

Instead of trying to talk your way around it, you should be making sure that she is attracted enough to you that she won't be thinking logically enough to throw these barriers up.

My best guess is that you are not disqualifying nough, so she feels chased from begginng to end. Meaning that she wants to put the brakes on and control the relationship.

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:35 AM
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Sinn did you get my email about doing www.sinnsofattraction.com? if not email me at firstidea@gmail.com or PM me here or im on AIM "Diremeasure" hit me up
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:35 AM
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I've been at a couple parties/bars where I was a little drunk, K-closed a couple girls within an hour, and got their numbers. Then when I invite them to "tag along" somewere, sometimes it gets a little akward because I don't know wether to apply strong kino, or to just act as if nothing happened. Could I get some advice on how to best manage this situation? Thanks.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:36 AM
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Not sure if I'm too late but here goes:

I haven't had any problems opening, or hooking in girls, as well as building attraction, most of my material is my own, and some of it is borrowed from random places here on the forums and such, but the one sticking point or problem that I can think of is that sometimes I genuinely have to leave a place or a venue which can be good, and sometimes I will feel the energy start to die down so I will skip out to the next set...but my question is that alot of those times I can tell there is still attraction from the target

how can I somehow number close or email close or something for later in these situations where I either generally have to leave, or I'm just feeling like bouncing around to somewhere else?

I've had just about every single different thing you can imagine happen: the girls say hopefully I run into you later, or I'll facebook you or whatever--it feels like to me that if you go out on a limb and ask for the number there you either show to much interest, or you look needy. (I remember that part of the game with the cat string theory)

Any suggestions for what to do rather than just jumping out there and going for the number on a limb?

Uh yeah, don't leave until you have enough attraction qualification, and rapport to build a time bridge she will want to show up for. If the set is on and she's hot why are you leaving?

it sounds to me like ego protection, it is more important to you to not get rejected than to get the girl. So you find these excuses to leave before you push the set out of your comfort zone. It's an inner game issue I dealt with for awhile. You just need to start putting yourself out there and forcing. Where finesse game ends, force game begins. That is your final lesson grasshopper. LOL. I crack me up.

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:38 AM
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Sinn,

Do you use Open-FTC-Neg with Day Game?
You open and FTC, but you tone the negs down, instead you want to banter.

My definition of banter is competent flirting. You are teasing, but she gets that you actually like her. Rather than negs which are meant to convey dis-interest.

there's a great banter thread somewhere on the forum, it might be in the best of.

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Old 01-23-2007, 11:40 AM
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Sinn did you get my email about doing www.sinnsofattraction.com? if not email me at firstidea@gmail.com or PM me here or im on AIM "Diremeasure" hit me up
I don't think, I did, but I have someone working on it as we speak.

Thanks a lot for taking the time to help I REALLY appreciate all the responses I got from that.

I also will be needing more website help in the future.

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No problem man, you can put me in your rolodex. If you are ever in the New Orleans\Baton Rouge area let me know.
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Old 01-23-2007, 11:46 AM
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Hey Sinn

I'd like to hear your take on makeout in the clubs. Good or bad? I find that often I get buyers remorse when I kiss the girl in the club. On the other hand if I don't do it, she leaves and I end up with nothing or a numberclose. And needless to say, the numberclose leaves a very much higher flakeratio.

So what are your thoughts about this? Make out in the club or not?
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