Black Women Advice

[Isreal]

First I would like to say," Respect to this Community of PUA"s I bowed down to you". However, I have game, as for my 34 years of being on this earth I have to say, "that I never quite seen anything of this nature". Were I come from we are Playa's, but you guys are scientist and I am truly impressed and will forever worship the ground you walk on.

Heres, my problem:

I read the Book, The Game, love it, and tried it on black women, and I have to say, "that its not so easy", but it works well on white women and any other ethnic group, but black..Houston we have a problem. But if any PUA's had any success in this area please help a brother out. I can #close no problem, but I am trying to F-close.

Case and Point:
I go to a club, I walk in with a smile and energy, I do the 3 second rule, I see a girl that I like I come in at an angle and then I open her, then I neg her, then I demonstrate value, then I get the emotional connection, then i shift phase and #close now this works on HB1-7 but HB8-11 noway they not going for it...what am i doing wrong?

[PhilosopherKing]

Well w/o seeing detailed FR's it's hard to tell what you are doing wrong. You should post some and then maybe others will be able to help more.

IME, black women are friendlier and more talkative than white women. (Compare to Asian girls who are friendlier but quieter.) So what may be going wrong is that you don't need the negs, and 90-10 is not as applicable.

But that's just a guess... Not many black women in these parts so I definitely do not have a ton of field experience with them.

[illPUA]

Its working, the game IS working, as you said you have success with HBs 1-7. Are you sure this problem for you is ONLY with black women? From the looks of it, it seems like the problem you are having is closing HBs 8-11. I dont feel like this is a ethnicity specific problem. My guess is, and I base this advice off of personal experience, and teachings from the mPUAs, that you dont have enough social proof coming in. Mystery once said 'Ive found to really get the hotties, you have to create some kind of jealousy plotlines' or something of that sort. Try pawning.

How is your success rate with non-black HBs 8-11?

[AFChimp]

I know what you mean. Some black women are like dudes, they just don't give a fuck. Just tell them you have a large penis.

[Isreal]

I have tons of success with women of another race, but with black women, I don't want to generalize all black women because i have not sarge them all. Before I realize that this community existed , my game was hurting with white girls,but good with black girls..then when I got involved in the community..my game is picking up with the white girls and suffering with the black ones. I realize that what i need to do is use the mystery method with the white girls , and use the game that I originated with the black girls.

[Isreal]

My man, you tell a black woman that you have a large penis be prepared to get jumped by her and the rest of her friends in the club. Black women have been disrespected since they have arrived in America ..and for you to tell her that would be viewed as being disrespectful, and the only thing that would be large on you will be your eye.