Q&A with Savoy, student audio - The Attraction Forums

apg96 · #1 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 10:59 AM

Has the OAP turned more to advertising than teaching? I think so. This one is better than the last one, but it used to be i would read the whole thing. Now i get a list of upcoming bootcamps, and reviews of them alot. This Q&A was good, but i remember the old days when you had one section for beginners and then another more advanced section.

KevinW · #2 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 11:57 AM

who cares? you are getting answers to your questions. if you think you need more than Q&A, sign up. if you think Q&A is sufficient for you, then dont.

nobody is forcing you to go eather direction.

apg96 · #3 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 12:05 PM

im a poor college student, how am i supposed to pay 2k or more to go to a boot camp.

I said this one is better. The last one had almost no info in it. I want the old style back. All i am saying. Im hoping that someone will see this and make that change.

Something has happened to this forum lately. I dont kno what exactly happened. But its not going in a good direction. Maybe it just got too big.

Vapor · #4 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 12:14 PM

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im a poor college student, how am i supposed to pay 2k or more to go to a boot camp.

Sell your hair.

The lack of industriousness is aggravating. It is not difficult to develop the skill needed to make $20/hr. part time. Getting 2K if you really want it is not difficult.

apg96 · #5 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 12:32 PM

You mean, get a better paying job and make enough money to pay for food housing, alcohol, entertainment and then on top of that make an extra 2k all while being a full time student. Yea thats not hard.

Id rather not be in debt.

Vapor · #6 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 12:44 PM

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alcohol, entertainment

You don't seem to be appreciating the concepts of "necessities," "luxuries," and "sacrifices." Sometimes you temporarily give up something you enjoy now so you can enjoy something else later.

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Id rather not be in debt.

So Mom and Dad are paying for college, too? I mean this in the nicest possible way, but get your head out of your ass. There are people paying their way through school, on top of having a wife and kid, and no time to jerk around on Internet forums.

You don't have to go into debt. You have to decide what your priorities are. Being a "poor college student" who has money for for booze, partying (to say nothing of the MM monthly subscription) is not congruent.

Armac · #7 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 06:28 PM

APG is right though.

I have noticed int he last few OAPs have been more stories that lead into the promotion of a bootcamp or product.

But with Sinn. Savoy, Future, and TenMags blogs the amount of free info is still flowing, just in different ways.

apg96 · #8 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 06:54 PM

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You don't seem to be appreciating the concepts of "necessities," "luxuries," and "sacrifices." Sometimes you temporarily give up something you enjoy now so you can enjoy something else later.

So Mom and Dad are paying for college, too? I mean this in the nicest possible way, but get your head out of your ass. There are people paying their way through school, on top of having a wife and kid, and no time to jerk around on Internet forums.

You don't have to go into debt. You have to decide what your priorities are. Being a "poor college student" who has money for for booze, partying (to say nothing of the MM monthly subscription) is not congruent.

perfect example of wat is wrong with this community. I have a moderator telling me that i should by this product by belittling someone and their way of life. Not only that they make things up. I never said i partied. If i did why would i be on here. I said i spend my money on alcohol. And on top of that you would be putting my education in jeopardy.

I though ppl here were supposed to help better ppl. BUt it seems to going into belittling others far to often. Moderators seemed to be leading this too. No wonder mystery is no longer here. Nor is style. They both saw the need for a better community when this one started on its down fall. IF it wasnt for the VAST amount of classic writing on here, and the few members that do help nobody would be on here. IMHO

Im also going to bet that they delete or edit this quickly and furthermore they will prolly give me a warning also. For speaking my mind.

Vapor · #9 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 07:17 PM

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perfect example of wat is wrong with this community. I have a moderator telling me that i should by this product by belittling someone and their way of life.

I was belittling you about your lack of ability to take responsibility for yourself, but now I'll add your capacity for self-pity is impressive.

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Not only that they make things up. I never said i partied.

I am taking alcohol + entertainment and assigning it a verb. You can get into semantics of whether this neatly fits into that category, but that's changing the subject. The point is that "broke" college students don't have money for alcohol and entertainment and concerns about going into debt.

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And on top of that you would be putting my education in jeopardy.

Yes, telling you to drink less, work harder, and learn to budget threatens your education. Please continue on your present path.

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I though *blah blah blah.* BUt it seems to *blah blah blah*

Hey!

I coined a term for this months ago. It's a passive aggressive pity party!!!

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Im also going to bet that they delete or edit this quickly and furthermore they will prolly give me a warning also. For speaking my mind.

You lost that bet, though I bet you'd like that so you could continue to play the victim. Every post has value. You are providing and excellent example of a bad example.

As for your original conundrum, lay of the booze, the entertainment, work harder or get a better job, and you'll have money for a BC in short order. Everything else is bullshit.

Vapor · #10 (**permalink**) 01-25-2007, 07:28 PM

I'm going to leave my original reply but take a more compassionate angle since after some thought I believe tough love clearly isn't going to work.

agp96, from the theme of a lot of your posts you pretty clearly seem down and are finding things impossible that, if motivated, are not difficult to accomplish. I think that if you started exercising regularly, cut out the booze, and got into some yoga/tai chi/prayer/therapy of some kind you'd be feeling a lot better about yourself quickly, and women would respond.

In your current state, I don't know how you go from where you are now to getting good with women with game alone. It just doesn't work. By that measure, I don't think you can get any help with PU here. I'm not banning you, but the occasional advice guys get about taking a break from PU and working on other aspects of their lives certainly seems to apply to you.