Francis OAP & Mystery's kiss close

[Kong]

'As such, we always ensure breaks flow naturally and fluidly from the rest of the interaction. They are not presented to her as a big decision, but rather something that “just happens� while her positive emotions build. For example, you’ll have better luck removing a woman’s pants if you’ve turned her on, and you’ll have better luck kissing a woman if it progresses naturally from your faces moving slowly closer together…your eyes locked on each other… your voices slowing down… etc.
Make sense?'
Excellant and informative but does this mean Francis thinks the 'would you like to kiss me?' routine should be junked?
[it breaks her state, interrupting her thoughts, and the conversation, it is very abrupt and not natural, like Francis is advocating]
Your thoughts on this?
What is more successful, putting a finger to her lips and zeroing in when the vibe is good, or verbalising your desire?

[GameBoy]

I'm moving this to the new OAP forum.
Please be mindful of where you post in the future.

[Savoy]

I can't speak for Francis in this case, but here are my $0.02
Mystery's kiss close is interesting for two reasons:
1 - he does a great job of reducing the importance of the kiss by giving himself easy 'out's if it doesn't work.
2 - it is still meant to be natural and flowing from the interaction. You would only do it when things are going well, you guys are getting closers, etc... it's not about the words, it's about the emotional momentum.
So, in reality, its a couple of ways of looking at the same thing.

[Lancelot]

"Would you like to kiss me" does introduce a break, however it is a CONTROLLED break. This break is introduced by YOU, and not by her MIND. There is a LARGE difference between a man you are interested in asking "Would you like to kiss me" and you realizing "Uhhh, where exactly are we going?" with a man you're attracted to. (C'mon, get in the female mindset, it's not THAT far off a guys. Think Creep-factor.)
85% of the time, with the "Do you want to kiss me" pop, she will respond positively. With a state break, there is actually a 75% chance she will respond negatively. Yes, I am pulling these statistics out of my ass, but any number greater than 51% IS ACTUALLY greater than 51%. By 85%, I mean "More than half the time." Same with 75%.

[Friction]

Did you know that 90% of statistics are made up on the spot :P

[revoltado]

i like the mystery kiss close, but i hear one guru saying to just kiss, without verbalizing it. what you guys think?

[Friction]

tbh most of the time when ive kissed someone ive not verbalised it, but it really depends. I have asked a few people but it was because there wasnt a 'moment' where we were both obviously wanting to kiss each other, so i just come straight out with it when we were talking (have kiss closed all that i have asked btw )
You will know when the 'moment' is right, just remember styles routine where he smells their purfume, pulls hair, etc.
What i'd say is maybe whisper something in her ear too (nothing perverted!!), this gets her used to being close to her, your breathe can turn her one when its on her neck and also the breathe going in her ear will tickle alittle bit making her feel all funny (but in a really gud way), when your that close with her (and its not random) you can then maybe give her a little peck passionatly on the cheek near the ear, then as your talking you can be real close to her looking into her eyes, then down to her mouth (check mysterys triangle look thing where you look at the left eye, then the right eye then the lips, and repeat a few times, but all of this you have to do SLOWLY!).
It will just start to come naturally and before you know it you will both be kissing.
I believe you should never give anyone a 'yes/no' question (where you ask a question that promotes only a yes/no answer), try maybe even using Mysterys 'stick your tongue out' routine!
Remember, kissing someone is easy, dont stress too much about it, just make sure you getting lots of kino with the both of you because this builds comfort and a connection. You NEED both before you can kiss close!

[revoltado]

thanks francis.... i asked ||||||| about a girl who show lots of iois, and isolate me , i tried to kiss close but she refuse...
||||||| said that i have to do kino before....and i dont do many kino with this girl.
so...start doing kino before kiss, right?

[tom_the_drum]

i am an AFC, but i decided to try and use this question. i usually find it easy to dance with girls in clubs etc, and because the atmosphere is usually loud, i found this question ideal!

[revoltado]

the problem of kiss close is to create a moment...i will try the gunwith sexual projection before kiss close, i think this create the moment.