First Question - The Attraction Forums

Charkosh · #1 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 03:03 PM

I'm wondering if there is anyone who's bought the VAH/taken a bootcamp and still reads these. and what their thoughts are on how useful the stuff is.
The OAP seem pretty solid to me (I can't afford the VAH atm). It's been really helpful. Also I found the "dating within your social circle" very informative, although I haven't actually applied any of the material there yet.

#2 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Charkosh

I'm wondering if there is anyone who's bought the VAH/taken a bootcamp and still reads these. and what their thoughts are on how useful the stuff is.
The OAP seem pretty solid to me (I can't afford the VAH atm). It's been really helpful. Also I found the "dating within your social circle" very informative, although I haven't actually applied any of the material there yet.

Yeah I think they're well Worth signing up for. I've been to several bootcamps and I still find valuable information in these things.
I love the idea where they do the "He says she says" and show us from a woman and a guy's perspective of the conversation.

Charkosh · #3 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by MASTERS

I love the idea where they do the "He says she says" and show us from a woman and a guy's perspective of the conversation.

I TOTALLY agree with this, it really helps put things in perspective. Especially since alot of the times you're thinking to yourself "awww ya! she's totally into me", when she's thinking "awwww ya! this guys a creep/AFC/thinks I'm the prize/etc!"
P.S. Masters you're a bastard for changing the title of my post, you know damn well what it meant :P

Savoy · #4 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 04:32 PM

Hey guys, I just read Francis' most recent OAP. The one on kissing.
It was interesting how this reflected ideas that we'd be kicking around for a while but never formalized...
To make an analogy to a video game, kissing is the second screen. You're playing the whole first screen to get to the kiss, and the game changes around entirely.
And the first few minutes after the kiss are as important as the first few minutes of the opening. You have just as much chance to sink yourself as you do to make gains.

Charkosh · #5 (**permalink**) 05-26-2006, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Savoy

Hey guys, I just read Francis' most recent OAP. The one on kissing.
It was interesting how this reflected ideas that we'd be kicking around for a while but never formalized...
To make an analogy to a video game, kissing is the second screen. You're playing the whole first screen to get to the kiss, and the game changes around entirely.
And the first few minutes after the kiss are as important as the first few minutes of the opening. You have just as much chance to sink yourself as you do to make gains.

Hmm I haven't gotten this one yet. Hope to read it soon.
P.S. I think the video game analogy is an awesome one. If I had sarged as tirelessly as I played video games I'd be able to give mystery a run for his money. You may fuck up a million times on but you just keep on restarting and eventually you figure it out and get to the next level.

Oneiricon · #6 (**permalink**) 05-27-2006, 07:47 AM

Yeah, I just received and read the latest OAP.
It goes hand in hand with a situation I'm currently dealing with, and it put a great spin on the problem of how to keep her interested after the kiss. I know she's still interested, as she is the one who is making the initiative to kiss me, as opposed to the other way around. However, I sense that inner AFC wanting to jump out and fuck everything up with this one. Reading this OAP helps greatly, and it couldn't have come at a more opportune time.

Seeing her tonight. Wish me luck.
The OAP is such a great resource. I still go back and peruse the issues I've already received, months later. Francis, thank you for your time spent on this. If no one else appreciates it (which I know is untrue), at least know that I do.