Soul's Day Game Q&A - Page 5 - The Attraction Forums

napjohn8 · #41 (**permalink**) 06-16-2008, 09:30 AM

Hey london soul i got a few questions?

1) I am in university in toronto, ontario and in the downtown core with a tremendous amount of woman. I love to do club game however do you find its easier to be direct and move to qualification alot quicker in day game?

2) How come there aren't alot of ebooks that cover day game and if there are any resources can you send them to me?

3) Last questions lets say i grab the number do you recommend staying a few more minutes or just leaving right away?

Shenanigan · #42 (**permalink**) 06-18-2008, 07:51 AM

Yeah, sounds awesome, Soul!! Makes a lot of sense, thanx for the info!

But what do you consider to be "implicit direct/sexual behaviour"? Can you give an example? I believe I know what you mean but I'm not sure. The kids are a handful to control at work and get ya tired fast, so could a possible conversation be:
HB: "Ya, these kids can get ya tired pretty fast!"
S: "Ya they look like fun tho, but ya better save some energy for later..don't get any [naughty] ideas tho!"

Could that work? Thanx Soul!

londonsoul · #43 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 03:41 AM

Hi guys,

Sorry for the slow response, been mad busy prepping for the Day Game seminar, which went down a storm!! Reviews will be up soon, check em out

I'll answer all the Qs here and then close the thread for now.

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Originally Posted by Guitario

Have you ever approached girls at the beach? Im from Bournemouth and as you prob know we have a pretty good beach here, and its packed whenever its hot. I want to use this area for approaching in the summer, but am a bit at a loss about the right way to go about it. Different scenarios..

1, girl or girls laying down sunbathing
2, waiting in line for an ice cream/drink
3, walking along the promonade
4, a lot of mixed groups
5, topless girls.. a no-no?

I've done some beach approaches before, mainly abroad though as not many beaches in London, haha. Normal rules of being socially calibrated apply.

1. These are just like girls in parks. Go Direct on the singles, go direct on groups of girls, or use situational openers on groups. Important thing is to use a time constraint when you are doing seated/lying down sets as you don't want to pressure them into feeling you are not going to stay if you are not welcome.

2. Use a situational opener, functional or opinion opener. Again, as she's standing in line, you don't want to pressure her with a direct opener.

3. Promenade is just like the street, go direct.

4. I don't do mixed groups in day game, there are normally enough lone wolfs and groups of girls for me not to bother. If you do do mixed groups, use something indirect like an opinion opener, so you don't put pressure on the girl.

5. Topless girls are fine, just be socially calibrated by not looking at their tits and looking them in the eyes when you talk to them. It's fine to go direct, again though as they're sitting or lying there (as opposed to moving) use a false time constraint.

Soul

londonsoul · #44 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaejin

1) What is the difference between your game when you're trying for a SNL in day game vs. SNL for Night game? (Especially in terms of timing of sooner to escalate, and when/if you frame them sexually or have certain frames you set up)

2) What are some ways you frame in set during mid-game while on an instant date?

1) For Same Day Lays (SDL), it will generally take a bit more time. Girls are less sexualised in the daytime, generally two things help them to become more so: evening time and alcohol. i.e. the more you can extend your instant dates into the evening, and the more you can have alcohol involved (take her to bars), the more likely you can SDL her.

What I'll try to do is either keep on instant dating her until I venue her back to my place, or build a shit load of comfort, number close, and arrange to meet her a few hours later (so we can both go home, and shower etc.). By that time, it's normally evening, so SDL is much more likely.

2) I frame for spontaneity, taking risks, being passionate, serendipity, living in the moment, being emotionally connected, and I future project a lot as well.

E.g. "You know when I first saw you, it made me nervous. I see a lot of pretty girls but there was something about the way you did X [some body language comment or mannerism] that made me really want to talk to you.

I had no idea what you were going to say when I approached you, but I just knew I had to take the risk. I think that's how people should live, if they want something, or feel something is right inside, they should just go for it."

This is much more effective when i'm looking deep into her eyes when i say it!!!

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btw this thread has really helped, hopefully day game seminars will still be up later on in the US.

I'll be putting them up on the schedule this week, PM me to let me know what city you're interested in.

Soul

londonsoul · #45 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kombat1

Hey Soul! Love the Q&A man. thanks.

1. Should I change my attraction material used in night game when I use it in day game?

2. Would approaching a 2-4 set during day game be different during night game?

1. The attraction qualities (e.g. confidence, humour, social intuition) etc. are still relevant, but you demonstrate them different in day game. For example, confident is demonstrated simply by opening her directly. Social proof is demonstrate by talking about parties you go to and friends you have (because she can't see you talking to other hot girls, as she would in a nightclub).

Because girls are approached less often, you don't need to use as many specific routines or be a dancing monkey, it's actually quite quick and simple to generate attraction in day game (especially if you're going Direct).

I have a whole section on this in my seminar, but essentially you want to use attraction material for only a couple of minutes, make her laugh and smile, and the move onto qualification and comfort.

If your concerned about your attraction material being appropriate for day game, PM me with more specifics of what you do/say and I'll give you some tips.

2. Yes, it's different in that it's actually a lot easier!! If you're doing street sets, you can go Direct on the whole group, "You are so hot, I had to come over and stop you!!" You can also go Direct on one girl, and then build comfort with the whole group so they like you.

Groups sets are a lot of fun in day game, people should do them much more often.

Soul

londonsoul · #46 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyboy1

Soul, some fucking great info there mate.
Wasn't actively seeking any closes as such, but wanted to improve on my social skills

You should always be trying to close mate!!! There is no point opening if you're not planning on taking the interaction anywhere (even if that's just a number or a date or a friend close).

You need to have a goal in mind because then it makes you escalate towards that goal with the girl.

As I've recently grown a Craig David-esque beard, the opener I went with was (all on moving targets)………….

Scuse me, (whilst walking in at an angle), real quick question, need an opinion on something (FTC)

'Been experimenting with facial hair and I wanted your thoughts on whats suits me best'

*then proceed to pull out mobile phone and show pic of me clean shaven as well - whilst doing this, purposely skim through pics of me out and some HB's on phone (DHV?)*

After reading your posts, I think I went too indirect on moving targets (hence the weird look from the second set!) What ya reckon mate?[/quote]

Haha yes man, way too indirect for moving streets sets. Indirect is FINE for seated or standing sets in low key venues like cafés, bookstores etc., but on the street you need something stronger to hook a moving set. That's where Direct Game comes in.

I tell you man, I did indirect on the street for 6 months and go nowhere. I got a bunch of fake numbers and dates that went nowhere. When I switched to direct street openers, I started getting laid with Day Game. Go direct buddy.

Also, you need to do more than 3 sets for anything. 3 sets will not give you enough experience in one day game session. Hell, sometimes I'll do 3 sets and get blown out 3 sets in a row!! But then the next 7 sets normally go way better and I'll get laid from one of them.

Soul

londonsoul · #47 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by napjohn8

Hey london soul i got a few questions?

1) I am in university in toronto, ontario and in the downtown core with a tremendous amount of woman. I love to do club game however do you find its easier to be direct and move to qualification alot quicker in day game?

2) How come there aren't alot of ebooks that cover day game and if there are any resources can you send them to me?

3) Last questions lets say i grab the number do you recommend staying a few more minutes or just leaving right away?

Hey buddy,

1) Yes, absolutely! I am normally in attraction for a couple of minutes if that, and then I'm trying to move the girl (instant date) and build comfort and qualify.

2) Cos I haven't written one yet ;-) Just kidding. The next version of Magic Bullets will have my Day Game section, check this in the meantime if you haven't already: Day Walking: The Differences between Day and Night Game

You can also find a few day game articles (check for my articles) on www.growyourgame.com. Otherwise come to my next Day Game seminar (I'll be doing one in New York in August).

3) You absolutely want to stay in set for as long as possible. The ideal is that you don't just number close and leave, but take her on an instant date, build comfort, then venue change until she's back in your bedroom. If she's too busy and u have to take a number, then yes, build comfort after taking the number and then eject.

Soul

londonsoul · #48 (**permalink**) 06-24-2008, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Shenanigan

what do you consider to be "implicit direct/sexual behaviour"? Can you give an example? I believe I know what you mean but I'm not sure. The kids are a handful to control at work and get ya tired fast, so could a possible conversation be:
HB: "Ya, these kids can get ya tired pretty fast!"
S: "Ya they look like fun tho, but ya better save some energy for later..don't get any [naughty] ideas tho!"

Could that work? Thanx Soul!

That's almost it mate! What you're doing in the above line is being cocky/funny, in otherwords making her the sexual aggressor, which releases the tension.

Being direct is about toning up the tension, and using it to spike her attraction. So this is what I would rather say (this what I call Implicit Direct):

HB: "Ya, these kids can get ya tired pretty fast!"
S: "Well I'm hoping that you don't tire out so easily when the kids aren't around." [look her right in the eye, and give a half-seductive, half-friendly smile]

Soul