Interview Vol 22. Damage Control (Speer and Savoy)

_Cane_ · #1 (**permalink**) 12-07-2007, 04:10 PM

Does anyone else notice that Speer's "3 times saying Yes" routine is strikingly similar to eliciting values..

BTW since this is a review. Two thumbs up for both November CD's. I like the winging one a lot too. Has a lot of good stuff about instant wings and I especially like the "hey an emergency came up, can you give my wing a ride home?"

I'll be looking forward to the December edition..

miaddict · #2 (**permalink**) 02-01-2008, 05:58 AM

CD Vol. 22 Damage Control (Speer and Savoy)

Pros:
As most students of The Game, I have gotten in situations where the sets do not go "as planned", even if you know the different phases on top of your head. This CD should be mandatory to any newbie and intermediate guys who are out in the field. It will help you handle your sets better and get more out of them.

Organization:
The structure of the interview is easy to follow. Savoy and Speer go through the different phases of the Emotional Progression Model (from opening to relationship management) to pinpoint instances where things could really go wrong, and in each instance, provide more than 5 ways to deal with it. Most of the advice/tips/insights are NOT found in any other products/interviews.

Content:
Here are some of the things I found very useful for me:
- how to know if you are really in "damage control" and when you really need it. There are various cases where you'd just have to follow the EPM and the advice given in Magic Bullets.
-the key principles of damage control. I learned that it's not about lines, but rather the mindset/guidelines that will also help you when you are NOT in damage control mode.
- What NOT to do when you are in damage control.
- Whenever "personal field tested lines/gambits" are given out by Savoy and Speer, they also explain the theories/techniques behind it, thus allowing you to know why they work. Sure, you could use those lines straight away and get results. But if you have internalized the principles behind them, would you not feel more confident going into any damage control situation and recover from it?
-how to deal with not opening/hooking, overnegging, awkward silences(running out of things to say), obstacles, the boyfriend line, bouncing, flaking and relationship management among others.
-how and when to apologize for your behavior.

Cons:
I found Speer to be speaking very fast (esp when I was taking notes). Damage control during the seduction phase is not discussed but can be found in the Seduction CD 12 with Sinn and Tenmagnet. I would have loved more time spent on damage control during the comfort phase (esp if you accidentally DLVed or hit DLV pits instead of DHV spikes).

_Al_ · #3 (**permalink**) 03-31-2008, 03:51 PM

Pros:
On this CD two senior PUAs (Speer and Savoy) are interviewed by another senior PUA (The Don). The title "Damage Control" is a little bit misleading, since:

"If you think you are in damage control mode, you are, otherwise you aren't."

Thus, are you are almost never in "damage control mode", it's more about "handling hard sets", things that might go wrong and how to get around this from the initial pickup to sex or the relationship. The interview offers great information on how to handle difficult situations. You can almost always recover from your mistakes if you know how to do it. Some of the tips and tricks given were already put out in earlier CDs (e.g. set doesn't hook, phone flake). However, I see this as a benefit, to make the information more complete.

The CD fits for any experience level. Newbies may get most value out of it, while more experienced people still find those small things that make a large difference.

The audio quality is great.

Cons:
What the CD does NOT answer is "how do I win her back?", which is REALLY damage. Some people may be looking for answers in this product. However, there aren't. Probably, senior PUAs don't worry about this too much, but some listeners might do.

So, what I miss in the interview are some hints on how to fix "hardcore damage". The standard community answer is (was) "forget her, next her". However, I think if you know how to play your game really well, you may get around it (means the standard answer is old stuff). I'm thinking of how to recover from DLVs, how to recover from lack of qualification etc. What you do if she doesn't take your bait, what if she sees you as a friend, what if she wants to fight.

I would like to see ideas on those topics on a "relationship management" CD.

Rating: 8/10

BroesBeforeHoes · #4 (**permalink**) 07-26-2008, 02:22 AM

I liked it

, shows that it's really important to not give up. Moreover, I think the Don's voice is really calm to listen to because his voice is so deep. That's how every interview participant should sound like.

How should I damage control this situation?

2 months earlier I had this flirt with this asian HB 9.5. She seemed into me, but when I said that I was willing to travel 50 minutes to see her she lost the interest. At that time I didn't have a car, but I have one now. Another mistake I think I did was to send the message "quit playing hard to I had you at hi." I'm thinking about sending following message to her (in order to reinitiate the chat):

"Oh my god I just saw your twin today."

Here's the field report from the whole interraction (if anyone wants to read it).

FR: Gym and 7Eleven sarging.