TWINS - Project California 2008 - 30-day challenge

[Twins]

The Game has become a form of religion for me. A sort of philosophical instrument to explore the human world and my inner self. Of course I love women too.

Since I've been studying and sarging with valuable wings for more than 4 months I think time has come to make a significat step towards mastery. So I made the decision to take a whole month off from work (starting from June 28th) and decided to sarge full time for approximately 30 days in California. I will move from San Francisco down to San Diego, LA, Las Vegas and probably back north but of course I'll leave room for improvisation...

The main aim of my project to gather more experience and strengthen my PUA skills, to test new routins and of course to have a good time. I need to get rid of my former AFC ego once and for all. I know it takes time but I'll be patient and work hard...

LIST OF OBJECTIVES. 2 groups: short term/medium term

Short term (immediately achievable)

1-Practice the game full time for approx 30 days (opening at least 10 sets a day - mixed sets - 2 sets - 3 sets -) possibly doing an average of 3 complete sets per day - with at least 1 number/kiss close per day)

2-Get rid of my current sticking points (which at the present time are a:

-difficulty to kiss close the same night and do one night stands due to my previous AFC life of chronic oneitises

-difficulty to open HB9 and HB10 and run a complete set on them.
-calibration/microcalibration (some time I need to forget about routines etc. which in the past few weekes also proved counterproductive in certain occasions. I need to read body language and adjust my set accordingly. Use improvisation is also important)

Medium term (it'll take more than 30 days but I can take important steps during this month)

-make significant progress in the effective and consistent management of my mindset and my energy in the most consistent, flexible and accurate way. The aim is to get the control of my mood/brain and this will have positive results in many fields of my life, not only as a PUA.

-make significant progress in acquiring the ability to break down and synthetise all the imperceptible signals that women subconsciously send when they are availabe. Then, I will be able to use a qualitative approach more than a quantitative approach

Technical problems:

-None of my wing will be availabe for this project. Maybe, a newbie I know from Italy will join me in LA but it's not certain yet. I will have to improvise, sarge with local wing, work a bit more with social proof and preselection using pivots

-I will be staying in hostels and this might cause some logistic problems for closing... I'll find out a solution.

I will be posting FRs here and on other boards to have feedback from more experienced PUA and also to keep track of my progress.

I wanted to set out realistic aims. I know there will be bad times and moments of discouragement but I already know it's a long way to the top. And I know it takes time. I truly have an optimistic attitude and I'm prepared to work hard to achieve mastery within the next year.

[Twins]

Ok. The first five days have been pretty productive. Since I couldn't get in touch with any local PUAs in San Francisco I had to stick to day game/street game.
I opened a huge amount of people in the first three days especially mixed sets. I ran a few old routines and tested some new ones. I then noticed that I'm too confortable with mixed sets so I decided that for the next few days I will try to put myself out of the comfort zone more often and open only girls (2-sets etc). I noticed that it's still difficult for me, so it's good practice.


HIGHLIGHTS

SET 1-

I'm staying at a friend of friends's place and some other people were invited over to watch a game. I noticed this is the best and easiest scenario for me. I can easily occupy center stage and tell effective DHV spiked stories, negging target and building attraction. I make friend with everybody, one at a time. Some Cocky funny. It's definetely my comfort zone although I still have this tendency to be a bit too rational and not enough emotional with girls (I got to adjust that asap)... Anyway, I manage to isolate my target HB7. Her friend (my friend's friend - target 2 HB7.5) gets apparently jalous or at least intrigued when I game her, perfectly locked in and energetic (that's useful also when you're in a house). She was supposed to have a boyfriend (also in the house) but she DLVed him saying he's just a friend and that he dumped him. She gives me IOI's. Unfortunately, I can't isolate too much, considering the presence of the "dumped boyfriend", now friend, and the fact that it is still afternoon and the house is too small. So I number close her. Unfortunately she was leaving town the following day early in the morning... ì.

SET 2

I kept text gaming target number 2 for 3 days. I build strong DHV and try to set a relaxing comfort frame. I talk to her on the phone. She gives me IOI's, we're in A3... She tells she wants to go to dinner with me. I accept...
A few hours later she calls me saying that a third guy is coming to the dinner. WTF! Is it a LJBF thing? A shit test?
I improvis by saying that it's not a problem with me as long as it's more powerful, rich and influential than me (irony-cocky funny)...I'm going anyway. It'll be good practice.
At the dinner the guy is cool, not an Amog, too easy to disarm for me... But first I make him jump through hoops, show he's a smart guy but not as experienced as me. I slighly neg the target but I still don't understand the relationship between the 2. She tells me we shoudn't have an empty seat at our table, she tells me to invite someone. I say, you pick the girl and I go and invite her (probably I should have gone immediately without saying that). At this point, I show huge DHV when I emailclose the waitress, just in front of them thanks to my knowledge of Italian wines (but she was a 5.5, not enough to DHV!).
I continue with my stories. I keep the energy and the leadership. More DHV (protector of loved ones etc.). She gives me IOIs and I kino her. She's compliant, apparently.
At the end, I understand there's something more between them cause he's coming to the house with us. We stop at his place cause he has to pick up his PC. The guy goes out. I'm in the car with her and she says:

HB7.5 So do you have a girlfriend in Montreal?
ME Well, I have many friends and girl...friends. I believe in friendship more than traditional relationships. They are not compatible with my lifestyle and they affect negatively my professional life
HB I understand. It's the same for me. I have him here (the guy) and another guy in XXX (don't know where, another city). I had a relationship with an older guy a few months ago but he was too heavy on getting married so we broke up.
(So I try to reframe)
ME Exactly, we're too ahead comparing to other people. We need this kind of freedom and flexibility
HB 7.5 So you just screw girls and then you say bye-bye.
(SHIT! I wasn't expecting that)
ME But no, I'm always clear since the beginning. If they don't accept my conditions I don't screw them... Things must be clear
(at this point I was totally improvising)
You know It happened several times that girls got too attached to me and it wasn't good, especially for them
HB7.5 Yes I understand, with your attitude and style you must have lots of admirers around the world...

The guy comes back. We go back to the house. She gives me IOI's for my style and my rings! But I amog myself at that point... Honestly, I woulnd't know how to handle that situation without knocking out the guy...
A threesome was not going to happen anyway...

Possible mistakes:

1-I should have opened another set in the restaurant.
2-I accepted the LJBF/nice guy frame during the brief exchange in the car.

Feedback and comments welcome.

Thanks.

Ciao

[solidc]

Very nice FR!
The girl clearly has attraction. She probably thinks your too high value for her you didn't let her qualify and win you over.
A3 could have been done better.

Once you seem to be stuck on building too much attraction.
Also you are not a dancing monkey picking up girls for their entertainment in the restaurant.
You do what you do for yourself.

well talk soon.

[Twins]

Here's the last FR from my SF experience.
I went out with my target the following night without his friend. We went for dinner first. I tried some kino and some compliance tests which apparently she passed. We then talked about some mutual friends we have in Italy, built some commonalities. Then I worked on eliciting values and made her qualify. She gave herself a 10! Then I did some reverse psychology and said we didn't make a good couple. She asked why? Which I took it as an IOI. i said: "we are too similar, too self confident and too career oriented". I then kinoed more (palm reading) and ran the cube on her. Her cube was a small Rubick’s cube by the way. Then I paid for dinner because I wanted to reward good behavior (I've been staying at her place in the guest room) but maybe I shouldn't have because she wasn't expecting it… I don’t know. Maybe I DLVed myself. Then we went to a local pub where we joined some of her friends (one was playing in a band). I befriended all of them. I then opened an adjacent set (2 HB 6) to warm up. I used an opinion opener. The set opened but I felt there was something wrong. I transitioned with the best friends test. One said they were friends. The other specified girlfriends. I started a routine but then realized it was a gay couple and they probably realized I was trying to pick them up despite my FTC. So I ejected politely. My target was still impressed by the fact that I was initiating conversation in such a friendly way with strangers. During the following 2 sets I tried to frame her by saying we were a couple and other people to rate ourselves from 0-10. Just the way we looked. It's a compliance test I often use. It's also good to create a comfort frame. But she always denied immediately we were together. I then understood it was a LJBF situation with no way-out. And in the pub there were only 5s and 6s. So I opened another 2 set (mixed) just to keep gaming people. It comes up that this couple (an average looking guy from LA and a chick from Canada HB8.5) had met through Facebook. I talk for a while with the guy about LA and local women there. And then this guy starts telling me about his theory on the importance of showing that you are a provider and a protector of loved ones when it actually comes to pick up women. Then, it starts being very specific about the prehistoric times. Sort of Mystery talks about hard wired mechanisms, evolutionism, cavebears, cavemen etc. I asked him what he had been reading. He said stuff...I didn't openly asked but I think he must have been a former PUA. His girlfriend confirmed he used to be a “player”…I facebook closed both him and his HBCanada. I will ask him directly when I'm in LA....

Despite all my failed attempts to build comfort with my target I still tried with some kino in the car but it didn't work. At home the beach boy friend showed up again. I sat in the middle and tried some more kino. But I that point it was pointless. She was going to be sexually aroused and I was working in favor of my obstacle. So, unless I wanted to do a threesome with another guy all efforts were a waste of time. So I just left. That was it and so I accepted the LJBF situation.

In the following days I stayed in a hostel. I opened all the sets I could open. Tested routines and stories on girls in their early 20s. The funniest moment was when in isolation with HBNorway I started with the cube. As soon as I mentioned the desert she says: are you going to do that thing with the box, right? I was shocked. I was gaming a girl who had already been cubed! I then improvised something with the clouds in the sky. In the end I just email closed her. I realized it was time to invent some new material for isolation.

In the next few days I spent most of my time downtown in the mall and in the shopping area. I spent a lot of time opening sets always out of my comfort zone. Mall game/street game on my own is extremely difficult for me because it seems socially incongruent. But I guess it's just a problem of inner game.

One thing about the quality of women in SF: my theory is that you can actually have a good overall opinion about the quality of the women in city by looking at the clerks working in the fashion shops. San Francisco, from what I saw, it's not a good place for sarging. Or at least from the perspective of a European who lived in Montreal for a while. The percentage of Asian women is extremely high and you don't get to see 8+s easily. So that's another aspect to consider. In the end I still ran sets, opened strangers, interacted with women and tried to be out of the comfort zone as much as possible. But I couldn't sarge consistently as I wanted because I didn't have any wing and this means at times my AFC took over and/or couldn’t keep the energy level high . In the end the only women I numberclosed were 6s and 7s and I closed them just to practice full sets.

Gay Pick-up
During my 10 days in SF they tried to pick me up twice (in the mall area!). One was probably a former PUA in his 50s and one an AFC clerk from a big store. In both situations I actually kept some ambiguity for a few minutes just for the sake of analyzing the PU process. One was a tipical needy AFC... I now understand how girls feel when they are approached by needy gusys... On the contrary, the 50 year old guy went indirect and initiated conversation while I was looking at some polo shirts. He actually built the perfect frame (for at least 5 minutes I thought he was working in the store). He started describing all the small differences between polo shirts made in Turkey and made in Rumania and other countries. He DHVed himself, saying he was into fashion and he made me qualify and jump through hoops when he knew I was from Italy. He spoke some Italian and again DVHed himself by talking about his travel stories across the world. Then a compliance test: when he knew I had been living in Montreal he said that a friend of his, living there, said that the most good looking women (and also MEN, he specified) in the world were from Montreal… Obviously, I said that I dated very beautiful women there and I could confirm his theory… After 3-5 minutes he ejected politely…
Being a PUA is like to see the MATRIX of seduction… It really feels like you have superpowers at times…

Next city is San Diego. Supposedly one of the places for sarging in the world….

[Twins]

FIRST DAYS OF HOSTEL/CLUB GAME

In San Diego I had immediately the impression that the city offered more opportunities to practice the game. I immediately built my social circle at the hostel (which is extremely useful when you go out in a new city).
The first day I find two beautiful HBAustralia 8.5 and 8 in the Hostel. One night there were more than 20 people in the hostel commonroom including my 2 targets. Obviously I made friend with almost everyone, apart form the targets pretending I was not interested in them. I was immediately integrated in a group of British guys (all of them were either natural PUAs / players). I raised the energy level and everybody got to know me. Hower, I avoided drinking...

We first went to a piano bar downtown. I was opened by a mixed set of 4 (2 girls and 2 guys). I ran a couple of routines. I made everybody laugh. I did more sets always ignoring the targets. People asked me more than once why I wasn't drinking alcohol. 90% of the group was drunk.
HBGermany7.5 from another group gives me IOI (eye contact). I open her. She’s with a guy (brother). She's so drunk I just can't game her. I make friend with the brother and start kinoing her. Apparently she's not compliant or maybe it’s just the alcohol. I was a bit confusing for me… We bounce to a dancepub called Whysky Girl.

In the club I opened different sets to build more social proof. I kept ignoring my targets until I got IoIs from hbaustralia8, I slighlty negged her and I even got more IOIs. I kept sober while everybody got loaded with alcohol. HBGermany leaves. Closing time for the club was 1.30 (very early). All the people in the group were drunk and I found myself completely sober but obviously not with the same energy levels of the others. The 2 targets were dancing monkeys, the other 2 guys one from Australia and the other from UK were in a similar state. Despite all the shit tests fom the targets I passed I still couldn't be at the same level of energy of the other people. I decided to keep a low profile and to analyse the seduction process of the other 2 guys. The OZ quit. Another British guy takes over.

Now: what's interesting is that I noticed that British always go for the close, generally speaking. Obviously, they fuck up most of times but they apply a quantitative approach and so they still get to close quite often. Another interesting point is that it is difficult to game people that are drunk. Probably attraction must be built beforehand and when everybody is drunk (apart from the PUA) you just go for the close reaping the results of what you did before. I don't know...

In the morning, the British guys told me that they didn't get to close and they had the boyfriend objection.

For me it was a fruitful night with lots of interesting points to analyse:

1. I was inspired by the British guys who always go for the close (often skipping Confort) although they deeply rely on alcohol. Closing is one of my sticking point so I basically learned that I have to be out of the confort zone as much as possible and go for the kiss close anyway. I won’t drink though. I might consider looking drunk though...

2- I should take advantage of the fact that being on a road trip gives you less social pression because you're sure you're not going to see those people again. And it's extremely good for practice and to test routines etc...

Still I have problems to calibrate with drunk targets. I guess I just have to kino and close… What do you guys think?

SARGING WITH LOCAL PUAs

in the following few days I had the chance to sarge with 2 local PUAs I met thanks to the forum, Sweetsauce and Fluent. Both of them are in their early 20s but they are extremely focused and hard core MM disciples. I believe that if they continue this way they'll become PUA gurus in a couple of years. Sweetsauce is still a bit more mechanical in his storytelling and routine stacking but he's very dedicated and works hard. He’s not afraid of opening sets (even 9s and 10s) which you often get to see in San Diego. Fluent is very good at story telling and body language skills. He opens all sorts of sets, especially non mixed, locks in and gets to numberclose in 10-15 minutes. I really enjoyed sarging with them. We did sandgame in Pacific Beach and mall game for 2 days. We opened as many sets as possible. When you sarge with such good wings you get feedback immediately from them, you learn a lot from your mistakes and mostly important you can run a lot of sets testing the same routines and improving them on the spot with the following sets. In PB Sweetsauce facebookclosed a 10 in PB. The best sets were run in the Fashion Valley mall though. HB9.5+HB8.5 buying a wig. Fluent and me we get into the set, both completely out of the confort zone but looking very confident. The game was on. We start talking to the second clerk saying we need a good quality wig. We didn’t say why though. Anyway, I neg the target (she gets a bit it offended) and then I try to make friend with the clerk. I make her laugh. Fluent talks to my target recalibrating a little bit and get her attention. I handle the clerks with extremely high energy levels. The set only lasted a few minutes but it was really good for me, especially considering the fact that in my AFC days I would have never talked to a 9.5 in the street. And negging her made me feel even more powerful...

Another good set was in a make-up shop. Me and Fluent we went in together while Sweetsauce was gaming another set. We enter, again completely out of the comfort zone. I say that we need to have our nails painted black . There were only HB7.5 and up in the shop. We were the only men apart from one male clerk. Totally out of our comfort zone. I start gaming HB8. Fluent leaves becasue he feels too unconfortable so I eject too... It was still good practice for inner game…

Another great set was the last one of day 2 when we were all very tired but we decided to go for another set. Just to push it to the limit… A complicated one: 4 , seated. We run my “Borat opener” (I might tell you later, it always opens perfectly here in California), Fluent goes for his DHV story after we make them laugh. Then we decide to handle each girl separately telling each one a different story. It really worked well! Then we throw a FTC saying we have to leave: Fluent shakes hand with all the four girls. It looked weird from the outside because it was the only one but it gave me an idea… I tell the leader of the group:

ME He always shakes hand after talking to girls. His mother is a professional palm reader and he's actually convinced that he can learn a lot just by touching a specific area of the hand.
HB7.5 OMG! Tell me more please…

And she reopens us giving strong IOIs.

We decided to keep this “palm reading” indirect reopener after a FTC for the next sets. It's good stuff because it also leads to kino and confort building. On our way to the car we even ran 2-set (moving targets) which opened perfectly and remained hooked for 8-10 minutes….

I love sarging with other PUA like Sweetsauce and Fluent. It’s good team work and you really learn a lot. We also have the chance to understand what’s really behind the game. You get to talk about how practicing the game can really improve your life and even your career. Fluent told me that I should rename myself “philosopher” lol. In the last few days I also sarged with AFCs and a couple of pivots but it is really heavy and sometime counterproductive for a PUA... Sarging by myself is still very difficult for me. I might still need some inner game for this...

What’s interesting is that, both days I got a solid number (HB7s). As I said in another post, I numberclose just to practice my closing skills and try to get rid of this sticking point of mine. But I made sure comfort was built and called them both after a few minutes… Good stuff…

In a few days I’ll be sarging in LA. Mostly beaches with a wing of mine coming from London, England… He’s a newbie but I ì’m sure we can work well together on the LA beaches…

Next post will be about kissclosing HB7.5 from Holland in San Diego, using only the Mystery Method (including the Mystery Kiss close). My game, at this stage, is becoming a true “exercise in style” in the sense that at times I have the impression that everything is fake. But I came to the conclusion that after all life and social interaction are “fake” anyway, at least to a certain extent, and we are all part of a big matrix in which there are specific rules that are accepted by default. We, as PUAs, we just reached a higher level of awareness… We are enlightened.

Ciao from San Diego

[BigDuke6]

In a few days I’ll be sarging in LA. Mostly beaches with a wing of mine coming from London, England… He’s a newbie but I ì’m sure we can work well together on the LA beaches…

Manhattan Beach, just south of Santa Monica on the weekend is great.

[NightFlex]

You moved there from Montreal, Que?

[solidc]

verry nice. when you get back we have to sarge again, i want to see the before and after

[SweetSauce]

wassup twins! It was really cool sarging with you man! Seriously me and my roommate fluent learned from you a lot. You have really good inner game skills!

Here are the things you need to work on

1. stay in sets longer
2. false time constraint more
3. be more encouraging to your fellow wing(encourage them to appraoch as many sets as possible because sometimes you just get low energy and I also feel that low energy; thus, I fall in that trap...
4. use more routines!!! Seriously, if you are ejecting the set, you should defintiely look up some routines online. It will help you stay in sets longer
5. use Multi conversational threads more often.

but here are teh good things

1. you know the mystery method very very well. You know it by heart and you can explain to anyone how it works
2. you are good at critiquing other fellow PUAs on their mistakes andt hings they need to work on
3. you are always smiling and talkative
4. you are very motivated to get good at Pickup


seriously bro, you have what it takes to be a great PUA. If you keep this up, your skillset will be really good in the future. All it takes is some motivation(which you have a lot of).

Ciao! have fun in vegas b/c one of our friends dropped out, thus we can't go =(

[SweetSauce]

oh btw, twins. MAn you have Balls to approach. If you keep on approaching like a mad man like I saw you in SD. you will become great. IF ONLY YOU STAY IN YOUR SETS LONGER!

but yeah, you have balls. Your Approach anxiety is very little.