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Guys I just want to say that this is all great material and when it comes down to it a cold read can make or break you...ps for those who dont know cold reading works best when you have talked to her for a few mins already then you re word it in the form of a cold read and feed it back to her. I welcome all feed back
Some people are natural cold readers and dont even need to know anything out of the girls mouth. I rarely ever need to know anything other than i can sit down and tell her. Watch her body language, reaction and dress and you should have most of the info you need to cold read. After all who we are inside really does show on the outside.
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Yeah I think the cold reading thing sounds a bit weird, like the statements seem those non commital statements such as star signs give. But on a plus not you could probably find quite a few cold reading statements in the star signs.
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Some people are natural cold readers and dont even need to know anything out of the girls mouth. I rarely ever need to know anything other than i can sit down and tell her. Watch her body language, reaction and dress and you should have most of the info you need to cold read. After all who we are inside really does show on the outside.
Yes I argree some people are, I my self can pull a cold reading out of my ass, but this fourm is intended to help people...and moreover my posts are to help newbies or a brief refresher for PUAs
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Yes I argree some people are, I my self can pull a cold reading out of my ass, but this fourm is intended to help people...and moreover my posts are to help newbies or a brief refresher for PUAs
To help out i would definately pick up a bood designed on how to read womens body language...its definately different then men. I would practice playing poker with real people and work on reading them. I can chop of most regular games that i never intend within an hour and walk out with most of all of their money at the end of the night. Get a book on Tell (a pocker term) and read that too. Just remember there is always someone better playing than you and can also read you. So practice your body language as well. Being a PUA is alot like playing cards. You have to know whats going to happen next, know your odds and when to run, push, and bluff. Ask around this forum for one of the great books on body language and watch Texas Holdem' on T.V.
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Great advice SS, I get a lot of pratice reading manurisms...poker, black jack, profs, hbs ect...pratice makes perfect
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Great advice SS, I get a lot of pratice reading manurisms...poker, black jack, profs, hbs ect...pratice makes perfect
Yeah ive recently gotten pretty into gambeling myself.. but hey the gestures help me read the other people.
Alittle bit of body language knowledge + The Completly Cold Manuel i mention above makes you unstoppable. I can just impromptu speak about someone for a good 10 minutes now, and they just soak it up. Girls love it, esp if u add alittle bit of cocky funny here and there too

Highly recommend body language books and COMPLETLY COLD
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i found some info on Mini cold reads by tyler durden at the bristol lair forum. here it goes.
by Tyler Durden
WhiteDragonPUA (Eddy) and I always joke that shit like the CUBE, handwriting analysis, strawberry-fields, and palmreading, is CRACK for chicks.
INTRO:
WhiteDragonPUA (Eddy) and I always joke that shit like the CUBE, handwriting analysis, strawberry-fields, and palmreading, is CRACK for chicks.
We call it "CHICK-CRACK".
They HAVE TO KNOW what stupid shit you can tell them about themselves, based on something ARBITRARY. I know Eddy has used this to bait chicks into isolation on MANY occassions, extracting all sorts of things from them in exchange for whatever fabricated information he's willing to spew at them.
THEY-HAVE-TO-KNOW.
So what is the reasoning behind this???
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THE BACKGROUND:
QUICK REVIEW (this stuff is to the best of my recollection, and its been a long time since I read 'The Sexual Key'.. this is the main USEFUL part of it):
As explained in "The Sexual Key", men like LINEAR progress, women like INTERNAL progress.
MEN:
Goal -> Goal -> Accomplishment
"I got the scholarship." - "I don't have to work this summer." - "I have more time to pick up chicks."
THE PAYOFF IS THE RESULT ("more time" in this case)
WOMEN:
---->---goal-->--------->-------
|
/--->----goal---->--------- V
^ |
| | |
^ accomplishment------/ V
| |
---goal-------<--goal----<----/
"I got the scholarship." - "That validated my choices." - "That showed me that I truly do have academic potential." - "That made me feel incredible because it showed me more about myself."
THE PAYOFF IS THE EMOTION, THAT RESULTED FROM A DEEPER UNDERSTANDING OF HERSELF, AND DISCOVERING HER *UNKNOWN/HIDDEN POTENTIALS*. (in this case, her academic abilities)
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THE TACTIC:
How to encorporate this into a more high-impact, or possibly a GROUP SET???
MINI-COLD-READS, cocky-playful, peppered into your SET.
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EXAMPLES OF MINI-COLD-READS:
-"you're bad"
-"oooohhhh noooo.. you guys are *trouble*"
-"you guys are the nice ones.. I can only hang with you.."
-(for when she answers that she is NOT adventurous, during Swingcat qualifying)
"yeah.. you're more quiet.. like Velma from Scoobie Doo.. you're smart,.. and
you *solve mysteries*"
-"I don't know about you.. I have a x-feeling about you.."
-"there's something suspicious going on here... I'm not sure what, but I can
just feel it"
-"you guys are *fiesty*.. like little powerpuff girls"
-"you are *crazzzzzy*"
-"I can't trust you guys"
-"ok, I can trust you now.. you guys are *IN*.. you're trustworthy"
-"you're my new bestfriend" (while caveman-ing her.. making the link from her letting you grab her, to her being your new best friend.. it makes NO SENSE whatsoever, but makes PERFECT sense to HER)
-"that-is-*awesome*.. you're gonna be my NEW GIRLFRIEND" (after something ARBITRARY, like a line in her palm, or showing you a cool tatoo or something equally stupid, but is somehow DERIVED from something she showed you...)
-"you guys are like crime-fighters"
-"you guys are total bad-girls"
-"you're the leader"
-"you guys are A-Crowd material" (after she says something cocky to you)
-"dude, these girls are obviously VERY adventurous"
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GUY LOGIC VS. CHICK LOGIC:
GUY LOGIC:
A) X = X
B) X-characteristic = X-related-quality
C) you are carrying a gun and have 100,000$ cash in a briefcase = you are
probably a bad person"
D) "This guy's got a gun and a briefcase.. he's probably bad"
CHICK LOGIC:
A) X = Y
B) X-characteristic = Y-unrelated-quality
C) you are stupid girls sitting in a club looking around with a stupid look on
your face (that I can SAY I think looks 'bad', even though it doesn't really
look like ANYTHING) = you are BADGIRLS
D) "these girls have a fiesty look in their eyes.. they are BADGIRLS"
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MORE DETAILED EXAMPLES OF THE PROCESS:
Ask an arbitrary question. "Do girls think that David Bowie is hot?", "Do you think I would look good if I died my hair ALL BLONDE?", "Do you think that spells work?", etc etc etc
REGARDLESS of her answer, PLAYFULLY-MISINTERPRET this as evidence that she is a "bad-girl".
-"ooooohhhh nooooo... ooooohhh noooo.. you just like David Bowie because he's total GLAM.. it's always BADGIRLS that like that.. you're bad, FOR SURE.."
-"oooh nooo.. my friend with BLONDE HAIR??? oh no, dude DO NOT listen to this girl, SHE-IS-BAD... look at the smile on her face.. dude, she is FIESTY.. do
NOT listen to this girl.. she has bad-girl written ALL OVER HER.."
-"spells? spells? oh no dude, we can't talk to this girl.. she's bad.. she-is-BAD.. look at the knowing grin on her.. she knows her stuff... I don't even KNOW what this girl could be up to.."
SAME THING when you have NOTHING to go on.. Just pick an ARBITRARY quality on
her.. Her clothes, her smile, her aloofness, WHATEVER..
-"dude, LOOK at this girl.. LOOOOOOK.. see it in her eyes??? She is BAD.."
-"oh man, LOOK at the necklace on her.. oh man, this girl is FIESTY.. she is PLAYFUL.. she is ADVENTUROUS.. I *KNOW* girls like this.."
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GROUP DYNAMICS - HOW TO USE THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE:
-Choose your target. If you call her "FIESTY", then try saying it to her FRIENDS.. "This one is FIESTY, isn't she???" This disarms the friends, similarly to Mystery's technique of OPENING off of the ugliest person in the peer group. You are ADDRESSING the group, and you are NOT hitting on the friend in the "normal" way.
People may recall that I took an HB8.5 right off her DATE, using this technique. ("is she always tricky like this?? does she always do this?? she is FIESTY isn't she?", to the GUY she was on a date with.. he was DISARMED, and she was AROUSED.. a combo that works for you in MULTIPLE ways, simultaneously)
-Play the mini-cold-reads OFF OF eachother. "she IS bad.. you guys are the NICE ones (to the obstacles)... I can only hang with you guys.. you guys are safe.. this girl is BAD (to the target).."
This gets the little LSE obstacles thinking that you're nice, and DISARMS what you're doing to their friend (your target).
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CONCLUSION - CHICK LOGIC AS SEEN IN SOAP OPERAS:
Want to see stupid shit like this IN ACTION?? Check out a stupid soap-opera, like "Passions" or "Days of our Lives".
You'll notice that its *saturated* in STUPID SHIT, like:
-"Billy got trapped in the snowstorm, and now he can never find his true love with Lucette.. could the snowstorm really interfere with them finding the potential of their true love?!?!?!"
-"Patricia got a fake palm-reading because Janet hired a fake to trick her into thinking that Bo is her true love, and not Ethan.. Will Patricia ever really find true happiness?"
-"Melissa hired a street-thug to SWITCH the paternity tests, so that she could be with Jake, even though its really not his son.. Now Jake will have to be with HER, and Crystal will never fulfill the love that she had with Jake, all because of this terrible trickery!"
-"Allen slipped DRUGS into Alicia's drink, WITHOUT HER KNOWING.. now she's a drug-addict, and a prostitute.. a total BADGIRL.. and its not her fault!"
THIS IS WHAT GIRLS ARE *ADDICTED* TO.
Shit where X = Y, and it makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, except through LEAPS of logic. There has to be SOME logic to it, but since its CHICK-LOGIC, there is no actual SOUNDNESS required.
You can generate this CRACK FOR CHICKS in the field, by making ILLOGICAL conclusions, that some particular quality leads to some EXCITING characteristic about them, that they weren't aware of, but maybe had fantasized at some point that they had.
Just pepper it in there, and watch as they CAN'T stop talking to you.
Then, use MYSTERY METHOD to EXPLOIT the social-proof, throw negs, and isolate.
Or just use it to suck a lonewolf into a convo, during a street sarge. It's useful in many areas.
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A rockin CR I used tonight on a chick who was obviously very friendly outgoing and social. It's basically a combination of the rainbow element with one of the recovery techniques. This was C1 btw which is where real cold reading belongs. This chick was actually convinced we were lovers in a past life and were fated to meet.
Paraphrasing from memory
Me: You are really so confident and outgoing and social. I'll bet you have lots of friends and are always surrounded with people... but I'll bet there are times you feel really alone
Her: No , not really... I don;t really feel alone
Me: That's weird *waits*
Her: Sometimes I do like to be by myself though, having space is very important... don't smother me (kidding)
Me: I could tell that about you, because we are so similar... and I am exactly the same way
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I suggest looking through Swinggcats Guide to Real World Seduction. In Swinggcats book he has a whole chapter on cold reading and the lines that he puts into the book are really great, so you guys might wnat to look into that for an edge on cold reading...hope this helps ya
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I prefer running cold readings from games rather than just out of the blue - for example using the Cube. Alternatively I have my own game, works similar to strawberry fields and Cube but can be used to neg and compliment, depending on the girl (I know lots of PUAs do not like to compliment, but there are good and bad ways of doing it in my experience) Anyway my game is:
The Fountain
The fountain represents the person talking about it, therefore:
Say to the target after Isolation that you want to find out what type of person she is, ask her to:
Imagine a fountain,
How large is the fountain? = How confident she is
How clear is the water? = How clear her ideas are - if clear water say shes interestd in art or literature (etc fluff talk) or that shes a clean freak...
Are there fish in the fountain, how many? = Fish represent people close to you e.g. close friend... ergo 8 fish 8 close friends
How decorated is the fountain, what is it made out of? =
How she feels she presents herself - link to what she is wearing, if classy fountain, classy clothes
How high does the water go in the fountain? = Represents Ambition
Works always for me and it is a nice alternative to the cube or can be used in combination with strawberry fields.
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