Super Pump 250 alternatives

[Smooth88]

Due to the fact that I'm from Europe and ordering the in the title mentioned supplement is pretty expensive, I just wanted to know, if there are any good alternatives to it. Any comments?

I've heard something of the product nano Vapor and also that there are slight differences between nitric oxides and no-xplodes. Any experiences?

[playdate]

Are you looking strictly for a NO product, or a Creatine/ NO combo?

Universal, Animal Pump
Controlled labs, white flood

I've used both, honestly to me the NO products are a waste of money, If it works for you go for it, if you have any direct product questions ask away.

-playdate

[The Legend]

just hyped rubbish

strong coffee, whey+glucose shake, some great workout music, and watching a rocky training medley on youtube first would probably help more.

[HumorUS]

Super pump works awesome for me, NO explode is actually a bit better, go with that.

[The Legend]

proven to have no effect, it's just in your minds guys

[Vapor]

Legend, do you have a reference on that? It'll be more convincing than an anonymous Internet opinion.

[The Legend]

it would, i'll dig around a bit

[The Legend]

T-nation source, say it's worthless

I'll see what body recomp and pubmed says too

Arginine blood flow stimulators ("nitric-oxide" or "NO2" supplements) have been shown to increase vasodilation, but only in unfed people receiving enormous doses through an IV.

• Oral arginine supplementation doesn't affect blood flow.

• A dose as low as 10 grams has been associated with gastric upset when consumed orally. This dose has no significant effect on glycogen storage, even if it didn't cause diarrhea.

• Time release arginine is supposed to lead to a "perpetual pump" effect. New studies have shown this not to be the case.

• NO2 was shown to have no effect compared to a placebo on body composition or muscle strength.

• It's not possible for us to consume high enough levels of arginine to effectively increase nitric oxide levels.

• Copycat NO2 products are no better than the original supplement. In fact, those that contain glycocyamine should be avoided because of potential health concerns.

• If you think these products work for you, then you'd better look into the placebo effect.

• Arginine might temporarily elevate growth hormone levels, but only if you're able to take unrealistic doses. There's little evidence to support that this short term increase in GH would do anything for your physique anyway.

• In one study, arginine aspartate was shown to increase prolactin by an average of 75%. Prolactin is associated with decreased Testosterone levels.

• Five grams of arginine consumed during resistance exercise was shown to decrease normal exercise-induced GH output.

• The positive benefits of oral arginine supplementation can only be achieved through doses higher than the human body can handle. And most (but not all) of this effect is mediated by insulin. So if you want to have blood flow increases equivalent to a huge IV arginine infusion, just manipulate insulin through other means (which will be discussed in the next article.)

However Dave Barr has been known to make the occasional feck up.

just take the whey/glucose and coffee, get real results, and save yourself money and gastric upset

[playdate]

Interesting post Legend, I've read numerous articles about NO and if it worked or not. I came to the conclusion after trying a few of them, that the the energy I got from them was great, but other then that not much of anything. I'm on a low calorie diet currently, and have some free samples I'm going to test. But like I said I haven't found anything that worked for me, my friends swear by some of the products though.

[jailhouse]

Originally Posted by The Legend

proven to have no effect, it's just in your minds guys

Agreed. there is lots of information.

http://www.latimes.com/features/heal...,3091882.story