Fader Phone Consultation - June 2008 - The Attraction Forums

sperkgs · #1 06-17-2008, 07:29 PM

Last week I had a phone consult with Fader. I had just gone thru a bootcamp over a month previous and was not happy with the camp or the results. I felt I had thrown $2000 out the window (night field portion). After my disappointment I started reading the forum and lounge and came across many of Fader's articles and writings. I was very impressed with his candidness and positive spin. He responded back to me several times and really seemed to empathize with my situation. After some soul searching and a month of failed attempts of pickups (not even one wrong phone number out of about 120 approaches after the bootcamp) I decided to have a phone consultation with Fader. He was outstanding. His positive spin and insights into self-image and introspection were just what I was looking for. He gave me great tips and answered my questions (I had more than an hour could truly handle) with great care. My only regret is that I failed to get any solid answers on gaming younger women (I am in my early 40's - look early to mid 30's and would like to try PU with the 25-30 set) but this was due to the number of questions I had before my first round of questions were answered. I believe one more phone consultation is needed for that topic alone.

What truly stood out from our consultation was when I asked Fader about himself, he told me he was "Awesome." That was not arrogance, rather it was his inner confidence and one that tells a story to any perspective set, "Hey you are the loser if you do not hang with me, I have my act together, am the coolest dude in the room, am high value and will most importantly show you great fun" - that was it for me in a nutshell and how one needs to think. Not arrogance, but inner confidence in dealing with life. Its the abundance vs. scarcity principal. If she is not smart enough to recognize how high value you truly are as a person, than the hell with her and go on to the next babe. Its that simple. I truly advise Fader for your phone consultation. I am glad I mad that decision. He really cares about your success and I can tell his students must be at the top of the class. His talk helped to inspire me to get three numbers out of 4 sets over the past weekend. What a difference - I now have a batting average of .750. Bootcamp was sending me back to the minors. I cant wait for the next at bat.....Thumbs up for Fader!

Fader · #2 06-23-2008, 06:47 AM

It was great working with you bro! You def have alot going on for you and I have no doubt that, much like everything else in your life, if you put your mind to it you will be successful. Definitely let me know if you swing through NY/ NJ!

sperkgs · #3 06-23-2008, 07:07 AM

I appreciate the note. You were great and your enthusiasm is incredible....To be honest I really wonder if I do have a lot going for me....I see guys that are absolute idiots pick up incredibly hot women left and right - why? They all over 6ft tall and look real good - that seems to be all that matters...me- Mr. Personality is home alone again.....I had another rough - I mean really rough weekend and I have to say this stuff is becoming more a chore than "fun" - actually its not fun anymore....Was blown out several times, laughed at again for running a Strawberry fields (to this day I have run this probably 50 plus times and have never had a good reaction to that one or the Cube - women all think its silly and stupid and childish - I think its great but I guess I am in the minority). I know one needs to be persistent but the numbers I got the other week either turned out to be wrong or they never responded back after two attempts on each..... I understand thats life but I am still King Midas in Reverse - I really try hard but its just not working or do I see any proof that this stuff actually works...does it work? I really dont know...I haven't seen it personally and I have been a student for quite a while, read all the material, done the bootcamp, bought most of the CDs, applied the material, been doing 7 to 10 sets when I go out - zip, zero, zilch.....am I spinning wheels? I have spent a fortune on this stuff and have nothing to show for it....Its the truth.....anyway, thanks for the note and lets keep in touch....Take care

Stormboy · #4 06-23-2008, 06:04 PM

Hey Pal,

Dont give up man. I used to think that looks was all that mattered. It is true you see guys who are 6ft tall and hunkish but they pick up because of their confidence level. Remember perception is reality. If you think this way then you are going to make this your reality.

I myself did a phone counsult with Fader and he helped me realise that girls blow out your skillset and not you. Are you keeping ajournal? Are you honestly being critical of yourself? Look man, Fader and these instructors do this stuff much more than you and I do. They literally see hundreds of guys who are not better looking than you or me pull 9's and 10's. You can do this..its a process man. Dont look for quick fixes. Keep trying. My brother looks like a bunny rabbit but has fucked more beautiful girls than much better looking guys...and no..he is not a PUA....you on the other hand have skills...just put them to use.

SB

sperkgs · #5 06-23-2008, 10:08 PM

You are right in that they are the experts...but I am still having a bad string...tried working a set with a cute 22 year old HB7 this evening at my local pub...thought all was going well and I was finally after all this time going to get "lucky" and then her friend asked me how old I was...I swear this is a big killer...I told her as a joke 17 then and tried to reframe, she laughed and then the this spiteful divorcee from across the bar yelled "he's 40 ladys"...this bitter thing doesn't like it when guys try to pick up actual young pretty women... I am 42 and the 22 year old told laughed and told me she was not into older men even though she though I was fun - so much for personality and she and her friends left....I swear I have no luck....thanks for the note...I will keep on trying.....

Fader · #6 06-23-2008, 10:12 PM

Wait for my Philly reviews. A student was 49 and picked up a girl who was in her 20's. He had done 3 cold approaches in his life before he had worked with me on bootcamp. Reviews will be up this week.

sperkgs · #7 06-23-2008, 10:32 PM

What I wanted to add was that is great....I am looking forward to the review(s) (and Philly is my home town)....awesome that he was able to do that...I hope to do that as well someday.....thank you again for the note!