Are the looks really that important?

[silverghost]

Yeap what women like and what attracts em are totally different things. Biological looks dont play much importance. As long as you stay cleaned and u dont have some genetic anomaly (even though many people pull it off great, we have a lot to learn from them), you are good to go. As for appearance, style, cloths, grooming, how u smell (cologne), what shoes u wear, your accessories and so on yes they do play role. How you walk in a room and how u present yourself are important factors.
So biological looks 10% max.
Style and appearance etc. around 40% i d say. Since they aint enough to attract a girl just with them. For some its more for some is less but even giving percentages i think its stupid lol.

[dagger]

looks do matter--they get your foot in the proverbial door and get you a lot of slack. i'm a pretty good looking dude--i modeled for a while--and i've used this to get my way professionally and socially.

the funny thing is though, that women will find you more or less attractive based on your personallity. that's the way their crazy little minds work. so if you've got some slick game then no one is really off limits...

good luck and take care,

[TrueStory]

Dagger's signature reminded me of a movie called "Tao of Steve"

By no means main character is goodlooking. But he has some mad game.

[Texas Tornado]

Why the fuck is there a new thread on this every week. This forum is pretty strict about moderation and I don't see why LOOKS and RACE threads aren't instantly closed. It is such a useless debate. The only thing to gain from it is MAXIMIZE WHAT YOU HAVE AND STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT.

But for those of you who want a woman's answer, take a look at this article: Phone Game - RSDwiki

Particulary this part:

I reply, "OK that makes sense. What if he's really good looking? Does that make a difference? Also, do you think that when he calls it’s better for him to chat you for a while, so you can be reminded of why you gave him your number in the first place? Or should he just call and immediately try to make plans? Also, do you think it’s better to call you out on your bullshit in a funny way if you flake?"

She answers, "Looks means nothing when it comes to that stuff. I know within seconds if I could or couldn't sleep with a guy. I knew within seconds that we'd have sex, the night that we met."

I reply, "Are you serious? I don't think that my looks are on a level that you'd want to sleep with me the second you saw me."

She replies, "True. But it’s in your energy. The way you come across. I can't explain it. As long as you're not morbidly disfigured your looks won't be the main thing I judge on. Girls all say they want looks, but they wind up with guys who aren't hot all the time. There's so many guys that I think are so hot, and I sit there waiting for them to talk and I'm all excited, and they're like "hi" with some stupid line, and they sound retarded and act weird. It's such a letdown, and most hot guys are like that."

Now go get some nice clothes, get a cool haircut, work out, and STFU

[dagger]

Originally Posted by TrueStory

Dagger's signature reminded me of a movie called "Tao of Steve"

By no means main character is goodlooking. But he has some mad game.

;-)

that's exactly where i gripped it...if you haven't seen it, you should.

my quote is his three rules for picking up and for as terse as it is, it's dead-on accurate.

texas--you need to chill. new guys come onto this board every week and they have questions just like you did. if it annoys you so much then just ignore the thread. no need to be hatin...

good luck and take care,

[unrated]

Originally Posted by TrueStory

What most women mean by attractive looks is: be in shape, have some muscles, be tan, have style, clear skin, and decent haircut. Being good looking as man is easier than being good looking as a woman.

Also if your game is ridiculously tight, you can get away with ANY looks. But the hotter the girl the "tighter your game" has to be if you're not "GQ-type" material. (emphasis mine)

I agree with TS here. Even though there are multiple threads on this same topic, I have to reassert that looks do in fact matter. However as TS mentioned, you can compensate by having great game. I bet some of you say things like, "since she's hot, i'll let that slide." Think about the inverse, where an average to below average girl tries to game you. Its not easy for her is it? Fortunately for us, having tight game is the equalizer if you aren't the best looking dude in the room. On many occasions I've seen hot girls with average guys, its pretty fucking normal. Looks simply give you a higher chance of succeeding if you do not have solid game.

Looks are certainly a great asset, but if you don't have them, do not let that limit you. Little things can be done to improve your appearance. For starters, finding a haircut that complements your face, wearing flattering clothing that fit well, knowing which colors look best on you, having great body language even when you aren't around attractive women, improving your fitness and building muscle, smelling really fucking good. These things all add up. They say "if you got it, flaunt it." Well, if you don't got it, build it.

[alkaloids]

Now go get some nice clothes, get a cool haircut, work out, and STFU


Awesome.

[Sinn]

Looks help for sure, but they are not a prerequisite for success.

It really annoys me when you see various gurus ranting about how looks don't matter whatsoever... Obviously the better first impression you make the better the interaction will start out.

Everyone on here has talked about how easy it is to improve your looks as a guy via style, working out, tanning, etc.. And everyone should make a conscious effort to make themselves as good looking as they can.

But bad looks will not necessarily stop you from getting hot girls.

S

[jsaligeri]

We have a guy at work that everyone calls the "Brad Pitt" of the office.

Today, while trying to get a print out at the printer room, some female coworkers were in the break room giggling and of course I had to approach and ask *WHAT UP?!" in a cocky funny way. Well, blah blah blah, blah, minutes later, the Brad Pitt dude comes in and is all like in his look at me am hot shit way, "Hey Ladies.. I am going to be at x bar tonite, come join me if you like".... He points at me and says, *not you of course* totally AMOGING me. I just smiled...

As he walked away, the girls giggle and I turn and I say, What? ---

One of the girls stands, turns to me and whispers, "We call him Brad Spit" - Another girl stands, turns to me and says, yeah, we all want to spit on him, he is so disgusting.

How appropriate given this thread, I thought I shared this.

Roberto.

[vampirehipi69]

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I like that analogy. "like you're auditioning for a role. I sort of find it difficult to mind what i am saying and doing, and also pay attention to women's reactions and body language. Any advice???


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