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Old 03-08-2008, 07:01 AM
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Default tell me about your day game attraction and qualification

I've commited myself to day game for a few months now, but I still seem to be having the same problems. I have the motivation and confidence and approach, but I don't plan beyond that. At some point I told myself that if you have the balls you'll do fine, but it feels like I'm up against a brick wall. Even if my body language is right and I'm feeling good, most of the time I don't hook and as proof of this, I have only had one conversion from day game in the last few months -- and I would estimate around 100 direct approaches have been made.

So how do you get a girl interested? I know what the attraction phase is supposed to be: DHVs and Disqualifiers... but I really don't know how to put them together. A lot of the chatter on this subject seems calibrated for night game where you can tell a story with embedded DHVs, and you can neg and tease etc, and it is contextually appropriate.

I'm hoping that some of you guys can offer your insights into how your attraction and qualification game works during the day, what sort of routines you use, and the subtext of your interaction (direct, indirect, etc).

I'm feeling pretty busted right now since I have been giving this 100% and haven't had much success. Would appreciate any advice.

Cheers

Prince
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:48 AM
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I've been doing a lot of day game lately instead of night game and I find it easier. It's really about being normal and genuine, there is no space for high energy.

Now it is important to never finish your opener and to transition to attraction. My favorite way is to do a cold read and then do some story telling. This is my structure:

-opener (root it, but don't finish it)
-FTC
-cold read routine (finger length, ring routine; important again is rooting your routines)
-story telling

My transitions are always cold reads, they are magic. Wouldn't you find it interesting that a stranger could tell something about yourself?

For moving sets I usually go direct because most of the time there is a real time constrain, so I go for the # asap. Example is:

[you walk next to her or you stop her]
SS: Hey, I just saw you walking and I just had to come over and say hi. You are adorable and if I didn't talk to you I would kick myself the whole day. You have to go somewhere and I have to go see some friends. Let me grab your number. I promise only good conversation and if we don't like each other on the phone, then we'll never talk again.

If a girl is stationary then I always go indirect. FTCs during the day are more important so ALWAYS throw them in, more than once is fine if you need to. Here is an example of my stack.

SS: Hey, do you know where I can find cotton candy around here?
SS: It's really hard to find those places around here. Me and my friend have this bet going on that the first one who can find such a places gets $20.
SS: Wait... I really have to go to class/see friends in a sec...

So now I've opened, rooted it and then FTC'ed. Now I can go two ways, because I use the ring routine/finger length routine as transitions:
1. She wears a ring, I use the ring routine.
2. She doesn't wear a ring, I use finger length routine.

ROOT YOUR RING ROUTINE
SS: I'm just curious, do you always wear that ring on that finger?
SS: Well, I was reading this psychology magazine and they were telling that the finger you wear your ring on tells something really strong about your personality.
SS: Hmmm, that is interesting.
[ring routine]

ROOT YOUR FINGER LENGTH ROUTINE
SS: You seem like someone who is either fascinated or interested in psychology.
SS: I was reading this psychology magazine the other day and they were telling me that you can tell a lot about a person just by looking at their finger lengths. It was really interesting because...wait, are you right or left handed?
[finger length routine]

After those cold reading routine you can really start a new thread and start story telling. Story telling is very important during the day, so have those stories ready. I immediatly start grounding and mix it with qualifications so 1) she starts investing and 2) you can start hitting on her.

Now after like 15 min I usually go for the # and then sarge on. But I'm thinking of trying to get more instant dates and then for the #.

Good luck!
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:10 AM
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Dude... can't thank you enough for this! I went out today and opened 6 girls over the course of a few hours. All of them opened great with the cotton candy opener, and cold reading transition (finger length) worked a treat. Got 2 number closes... so the results speak for themselves! Are there any other openers you can recommend for day game?

Thanks again for the insight

Prince
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:58 AM
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We don't offer up game on a silver platter.

I'm glad you got something from the other poster, and now you know that's just the beginning.

Please use the search function, and use the Opening/Transitioning thread where there are hundreds of openers for all occasions.

There's gold in the threads, man. Go find it!
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