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Old 02-24-2008, 04:22 PM
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Why is it when your doing day game you "should" go direct? Using stuff like "i saw you from over there and i just needed to talk to you or i'd be kicking myself all day"(recommended for day game by sinn). it seems to try hard and not a part of the mystery method and also recommending the approaching of a girl being alone seems like its too AFC.
And lastly does the normal M3 model follow in day game? By what i've read it does not. From what i've read around the forums it seems to work like A1-> A3 (Skipping A2) and if its not working go back to A2.

Please clear up my confusion. thanks!
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Old 02-24-2008, 05:24 PM
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The reason you want to go direct and it took me a while to figure this out it that during the day people are doing this and that and going here and there and there's not a whole lot of time to go indirect. You're target will probably be on a time constraint. If you go in indirect during the day it can often be plain awkward because your intentions can be so vague/random to the girl... She's in a rush to get to a hair appointment or something of the like and you start barraging her with getting opinions about your friends ex girlfriend...a little strange... direct gets you to the point quicker, this isn't to say you can't go indirect during the day it just has to be on a target who your sure isn't on a Time constraint.

You say isn't this AFC to walk up to a girl and tell her she's cute and you want to see if there's more than meets the eye? well no it's not if you display a non needy alpha male persona. I can tell a girl I'm interested in her but only if I come across as a non needy confident person=== she knows I'm willing to walk away at any moment because I'm the prize.
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The reason you want to go direct and it took me a while to figure this out it that during the day people are doing this and that and going here and there and there's not a whole lot of time to go indirect. You're target will probably be on a time constraint. If you go in indirect during the day it can often be plain awkward because your intentions can be so vague/random to the girl... She's in a rush to get to a hair appointment or something of the like and you start barraging her with getting opinions about your friends ex girlfriend...a little strange... direct gets you to the point quicker, this isn't to say you can't go indirect during the day it just has to be on a target who your sure isn't on a Time constraint.

You say isn't this AFC to walk up to a girl and tell her she's cute and you want to see if there's more than meets the eye? well no it's not if you display a non needy alpha male persona. I can tell a girl I'm interested in her but only if I come across as a non needy confident person=== she knows I'm willing to walk away at any moment because I'm the prize.
well said. i've been wondering about a few things on this subject as well. suppose its a 2-set or even a mixed set, you wouldn't go direct then would you? in that case, what opener would you use? a contextual opener comes to mind but would that be appropriate?

one more thing, in terms of routines and stories in day game, what should I use? would things like palm reads or funny stories work the same?

thanks, I appreciate it
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Old 02-24-2008, 06:45 PM
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The reason you want to go direct and it took me a while to figure this out it that during the day people are doing this and that and going here and there and there's not a whole lot of time to go indirect. You're target will probably be on a time constraint. If you go in indirect during the day it can often be plain awkward because your intentions can be so vague/random to the girl... She's in a rush to get to a hair appointment or something of the like and you start barraging her with getting opinions about your friends ex girlfriend...a little strange... direct gets you to the point quicker, this isn't to say you can't go indirect during the day it just has to be on a target who your sure isn't on a Time constraint.

You say isn't this AFC to walk up to a girl and tell her she's cute and you want to see if there's more than meets the eye? well no it's not if you display a non needy alpha male persona. I can tell a girl I'm interested in her but only if I come across as a non needy confident person=== she knows I'm willing to walk away at any moment because I'm the prize.
But the odds of this working must be low even with the whole persona?
cuz you haven't created attraction with the women?
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But the odds of this working must be low even with the whole persona?
cuz you haven't created attraction with the women?
I don't really follow you. What I was talking about was opening women during the day,, the attraction phase has just begun at this point, yes there usually is more to attracting a girl then opening her with good tonality and body language however this is the right start.
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I don't really follow you. What I was talking about was opening women during the day,, the attraction phase has just begun at this point, yes there usually is more to attracting a girl then opening her with good tonality and body language however this is the right start.
It just seemed to that opening a girl with "your cute" or something along the lines of showing interest right away isn't the way of the mystery method. Even with solid body language and tonality i just don't think opening like that will work? especially in group theory. Correct me if im wrong.
I appreciate your help adam.
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Old 02-25-2008, 06:32 PM
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Read some of Jugglers books, his method is good for daygame because it doesn't revolve around competition as much.
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Even with solid body language and tonality i just don't think opening like that will work?
What a direct opener like "you are so sexy.... and I'm going to get to know you.... so tell me something about yourself" requires is tight inner game.
Let's say a sexy,confident, well dressed man, with a big smile and alpha body language goes up to a girl and uses the aforementioned opener, unless she's perhaps a perfect 10, and even then , this girl is not going to be thinking "why is he hitting on me"... no most of the time she's going to be thinking "holy shit! who is this confident, sexy man, I want to get to know him." and thus attraction begins. It's because when your game gets super tight your value is skyrocketed and girls can sense this, by you complementing a girl you are showing no more interest then if you were asking her the time and everything about you shows this ... and she of course picks up on it...because she knows your High value and ready to walk away at anytime...that's basically the theory in a nutshell
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its also important to bring a high level of energy, not too high, but a fun vibe, like if you say to a girl your cute but with a "im gonna teaze you" vibe, in other words add value aposed to taking value. you want her to have as much fun as you

day game is about 99.9% inner game hard to master and close consistently
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Old 02-28-2008, 05:42 PM
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what about a group in day game? i assume direct is no good then?
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