Deconstructing A2 (Updated Version) - The Attraction Forums

dahunter · #1 (**permalink**) 11-23-2007, 12:46 PM

I had posted this before, but I have added a couple of things here to make it more complete. I'll be updating this post to add more and more to it as we go.

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Deconstructing A2
This is a question I got from a bootcamp student and with his permission I'm reposting it here because it's a really good question and I'm sure it can help a lot of guys to get more solid attraction.

Dahunter,

It's XX from the recent LA bootcamp (you know, the guy who ppl kept opening because they thought I was my brother who's on tv). So I've been practicing like crazy ever since the bootcamp, and I'm really beginning to develop my own style. I remember from the bootcamp that you were especially skilled at immediately transitioning from an opener to banter/qualifying. Like within the first 5 seconds you were already qualifying with them, I was impressed.

I was hoping that you could give me your basic structure of the first few minutes of a pickup. Maybe give me an example of your favorite opener, then the girl's response, then some immediately bantering/qualifying lines that follow naturally, then the few routines you go quickly into, and the banter lines that easily follow. Like I remember you used strawberry fields, so maybe you could give me the easy banter lines to use that naturally follow from a girl's response to the routine.

Thanks a lot Dahunter, this will help me out a ton. One of my weak points has always been getting quickly into an bantering/qualifying frame, and since that seemed to be your strength this would help me out a ton.

Look forward to hearing from you,

XX

The best way to transition, in my experience, is a cold read. Others use different transitions, and I do occasionally, but as a standard I will do a cold read. Usually something lighthearted and funny and it’s basically just telling them my first impression of them or running the best friends test.

The thing that I do that I consciously worked on is that I talk down to her in a playful way in the beginning. The thing is these things that I say come out of nowhere. I don’t have a logical reason to bust out with something like: “are you giving me shit?”. It absolutely makes no sense yet I say it in a loud way, 100% congruent and in a very assertive way so that there’s no once of doubt in my mind that it will work, and THAT IS THE KEY.

It’s not so much about practicing the lines as it is practicing the delivery. What I would suggest would be to grab one common theme for teasing like the “are you giving me shit?” and practice it until you have it polished.

So other lines I use in combination of “are you giving me shit?” are:

- I’ll kick your ass
- Are you kidding me? You’ll be on the ground in 30 seconds
- I eat girls like you for breakfast
- Be silent little girl
- Go sit on the corner and I’ll bring you a bucket of crayons.
- Yeah you’re like the karate kid on crack

So what you do is you commit to learn ALL of THESE. Learn them all as these are all ones that I use that I know work in the field, and master the delivery. So for example, a set of mine will go like this:

-opener
-hmmm you guys are funny (with a conspicuous look on my face), this is my first impression of you guys:
“You seem like you’re the mother of the group, you’re probably the one that takes care of all of them”
“You seem like you’re the shit starter, you’re probably the champion at any drinking game between you guys”
“And you, you’re like the quiet one”

I’m not the quiet one!

-Oh, now she talks, are you giving me shit? (you’re challenging like saying “are you a tough girl?)
- What? Are you trying to start a fight with me?
- I’ll take you down little girl
- Go sit at the corner I’ll bring you a bucket of crayons
- Listen don't start shit with me, I eat girls like you for breakfast
- Let me see your arm... OMG you're like the karate kid, but on crack

At this point I would either assess the situation to see if I need more attraction or if she starts asking me questions. Usually you don’t need that much, or sometimes I’ll ask a question like “so who are you anyways?” because they'll usually ask "who are you!?"

What I want to do is bait her so she keeps asking me questions. To do this I use lots of canned open loops. It’s always around the same topics. Like for example, right now I’m in Atlanta so I will say “I love Atlanta, everytime I’m here I have such a good time”, so the automatic question this provokes is “where are you from?”

So I will say “I wasn’t born there, but I live in Chicago”. This will then bait her to ask, so where were you born?

All of these responses I have all these DHV’s rigged to them that just trigger attraction in a pretty predictable rate, and this is why my attraction game is so tight.

Another thing that’s really important is body language. After analizing the way most students run their sets I have a list of things you ABSOLUTELY MUST AVOID when talking to girls:
1. Never open with a “full frontal opener”. This means that when you first go talk to a group of girls never have your entire body language facing at them. The correct way to open a set is to not face them directly and just open them through your shoulder. You will want to face them when the time is right, and this time is when you are doing your transition and you “noticed” something about them.

2. Never orbit a set before you open. Many guys will stand really close while they work up the courage to open it (hesitating in the meantime) and it completely WEIRDS out the set even before you open it. Competent pickup must look like it’s really casual and “it just happened”. Why would you be nervous if it’s just small talk right?

3. Don’t “jolt” into the set. Some guys will stand next to the girl looking aloof and then will “jump” into the set which shocks girls just as you open them. Relax, take your time, don’t push it to hard and move slowly but deliberately.

4. Don’t take your sets too seriously and go in with a super serious face. Relax, God gave us plenty of girls and will keep making more so don’t act like you absolutely must have to get this one set right. Sometimes I will send students into sets with the only mission to blow themselves out just so they learn that it’s not the end of the world. Smile.

5. Never do a set without locking in! This is crucial to your success. You must lock in in order to have higher value and be more comfortable than she is. Move the set around if you have to but always lock in.
One of the most common sticking points I’ve seen in students is having the girls move when they’re trying to lock in. My solution for this is I’ll say “wow look at your fingers” and I’ll grab them and measure them against eachother, and she’ll be super curious about what it means, so I’ll tell her to “come over here, I’ll tell you” and start explaining as I walk back and lock in and finish the explanation once I’m locked in.
The explanation is that if her index finger is longer than her ring finger than she has a lot of estrogen so she is really girly and if it’s the other way around she has lots of testosterone and is really aggressive.

6. Never do a set without kino escalation! If you don’t kino escalate you are not going anywhere! This is so important. The whole point of pickup is to escalate to the maximum physical intimacy possible (sex) so it’s your mission to do this and to do it gradually from the start. The conversation may be going great but if you don’t escalate YOUR SETS WILL NOT GO ANYWHERE.

7. Don’t stay in the same place for too long. You open the set, get attraction and when you see that she is ready, move somewhere else. Walking as little as a couple of steps away from where you originally opened can make the world of difference, as little distance you went together, you are now “together” so this creates a more intimate vibe to your pickup.

So in summary, avoid these important mistakes people make. Also remember that the key to make your attraction game tight is just to have a general theme that you do your banters in, like it can be “we’re going to fight”, it can be “I’m the popular one you’re the nerd”, it can also be “you’re so into me it’s obvious” and then throw in all these funny lines back and forth with the girl until she’s invested so much that she becomes attracted to you. Again, borrow the lines I gave you above and polish those until you have the delivery right and then you can come up with new ones.

Once she’s attracted she will start asking you question that you will predictably get over and over, so prepare all your pre canned responses to all those questions with open loops and DHV’s about yourself, and then mix it up with some playful future projections. Do that and before you know it you have a girl that is completely into you in like 10 minutes.
I do 1 on 1’s about this stuff btw

Dahunter