k-close when it's the right moment?

[spellcaster]

i seem to have a problem to sense the proper moment for k-close, i'd like to know some routines of you guys, on how to produce the moment myself (not without the correct amount of comfort obviiously)

this is coming from this thread were i failed into that stage, what do you think?
regards

[Psych_]

Recognizing when it's time to kiss close is basically being able to see windows of opportunity for escalation and that comes from time in field and calibration.

The best thing to do would be to try and kiss close sets even when you're unsure or to soon and then gradually find the "money spot" or signs to look for. You really have to play around with it and get a sense of when it's right and that means failing a few times.

To structure a kiss close it's great to qualify into it and test her. Begin qualifying her on light sexual things and check for kino compliance that you build up. Kissing should just be the next step of kino although it is honestly a crucial moment of no return where it's explicit that this isn't just a "friend" thing.

As for a kiss close routine? There's TONS out there but I personally like to either just go for it without any routine (usually after a BT spike) or else after a qualification, the one I like best being "On a scale of 1-10 how good a kisser are you?" and if she answers a high number then you just go for it.

[Peter_Pan]

I like that one!, heres one i did once....

after building up attraction and some qualification that linked a lot of her personality traits to mine, then some kino which lead to hand holding, i started to do a few mind games, like the pick a number between 1 and 4 trick, she then started to cut up bits of paper and ask me which ones she was thinking of, i then said to her "what am i thinking?" she looked at me and i pushed my face forward a bit and i said "look into my eyes" so she pushed her head forward too, then i moved forward and kissed her, after she said "i had a feeling thats what you were thinking"

[spellcaster]

thanks both

both good routines, i think i'll begin with psich's and move into the other one, perhaps in a dif situation

what is BT spike?

spell

[Peter_Pan]

you can comment on their lipstick if they got noticeable stuff on and the ask if it would make a heart shape on your cheek if you kissed it, if they kiss your cheek then theres a good chance they'll kiss you on the mouth, when they kiss your cheek say now lets do it properly

or you can use the camera one...

tell her you want to take 3 pics of yourself with her...

first one looking stupid or really happy

second really serious

third one with a kiss

[spellcaster]

those are good ones, i'll take them into account.
ussually i sarge in places with loud music so i've got to make sure she listens to me

though the one on the lipstic is a good one

[Nicknock]

Depends, the last girl i k-closed, i told her we were going to have ice cream and watch scary movies, so we did...during one of the movies i mentioned how my back was sore...she offered a massage, then i gave her one in return...noticed she was laying really close to me so i just looked her in the eyes and said...do you want to kiss me? she said maybe and blushed hard....so i pulled her face to mine and said...well lets see. it was on from there boys

[JazzThat]

well, i have read a lot of things that should help you to find out if she is ready to kiss.
these are the two i find most promising:

3 IOI's,
David DeAngelo's kiss-test.(i believe)

if you should get 3 IOI's you should shift to the kiss-test.
i can't find it right now, but i remember how to do it:
you stroke through her hair and look her her in the eyes.
if she doesn't give a negative reaction (pushing you away or whatever), you say that her hair smells nice/is soft.
then you stroke her hair again, but instead of making eye contact, you look at her lips long enough for her to notice.
if she doens't give a negative reaction, she is ready to kiss.

this is the thing i can really relate to.
i use them after each other to be sure.

[dhies]

Originally Posted by JazzThat

well, i have read a lot of things that should help you to find out if she is ready to kiss.
these are the two i find most promising:

3 IOI's,
David DeAngelo's kiss-test.(i believe)

if you should get 3 IOI's you should shift to the kiss-test.
i can't find it right now, but i remember how to do it:
you stroke through her hair and look her her in the eyes.
if she doesn't give a negative reaction (pushing you away or whatever), you say that her hair smells nice/is soft.
then you stroke her hair again, but instead of making eye contact, you look at her lips long enough for her to notice.
if she doens't give a negative reaction, she is ready to kiss.

this is the thing i can really relate to.
i use them after each other to be sure.

Yep, that's the way it goes.

Another one I learned from David D., at least i think it was, is the "kissing school".

Basically, you mention that you heard of this school that teaches kissing and gives grades. You make it as extravagant as you want but I tend to keep it simple. Have her tell you what she thinks her grade would be, then I usually go with something like I don't believe that or prove it. Has worked pretty well for me.

Now, once the kiss is done. Give her a grade but make sure it's low like a D or C- and I usually say I think you can do better and escalate from there!

[chill84]

Juggler says escalate on her highs not yours. In comfort, she's working for you and you are working for her, so if you aren't sure when a good time to go in for it is - do it after she impresses you in someway