Hey guys, I found my sticking point.. Wierd right.

[HumorUS]

Hope you guys can help me out here..

Approaching is no problem.. Attraction.. EASY!!! Gaining the groups acceptance.. My specialty.

now, yesterday night i went out to a country bar and ran into a girl i had opened and thought nothing of at another club about 2 weeks earlier. (we;ve exchanged brief myspace messages, but i was just practicing on her)

Shes super Cute HB8.. but one of those really cute girls that you wish lived next door to you so you could sneak out your window and talk like in the Cheesy Chick Flick movies..

she came up to me as i was doing approaches and makin friends. she taps me on my shoulder and we started talking.. i danced with her for a bit, and KINOed like crazy..

For once, i tried ISOLATION.. and it worked.. i was a little surprised because i didnt think it would work. it was my first time applying the isolation technique so it was unchartered water for me..

I ran with it, improvised and played a couple of kino games.

I played Rock paper scissors with her with the stipulation of Who ever wins gives the other a kiss on the cheek... Does this count as a kiss close?

i did some bull shit palm reading and just joked around with her for a little bit. she was feeling it..

I took out my camera and we took some pics, i would neg her a bit, but then say, "Nah, im just jokin, We look really good together.. (looking at the pics)


after a while, it kinda died down, and it was towards the end of the night. I was grasping at straws here, but not doing very good.

I asked her " What are you thinking?"

She said , "Im just wondering what my friends are doing.." IOD Nooooo

I number closed and took her to her friends, and told her i was gonna take off cause i had to wake up really early the next morning to work, I gave her a kiss on the cheek, she returned the favor and we parted ways..

Now i did some good things.. but i know for a fact that i could have done a WHOOOOOOOOLE LOT better.. what do you guys think i could have changed or added to make my night a whole lot more positive.

I need some advice so i dont let this happen again.

Appreciate your help,

Luck and Love,
Humorus

[cagalindo]

went it for the kiss when it was good

[iWitness]

^truth

[SFBlackRob]

obviously

I asked her " What are you thinking?"

this was a no-no.

Girls say this when they really like you and have lower value in the relationship. It does nothing to help of course.

Sounds like you had her in the bag but you were grasping at straws to entertain her. Next time, make her qualify for you at this point. I've seen guys try and DHV neg DHV neg all night with canned stuff but you were past that. Also sounds like you could've kissed her by whispering something in her ear or talking softly so that she would have to move in to hear you. Ask her an opinion opener that you might disqualify her for. Sounds like you could've pushed the envelope here with your rock paper scissors routine by saying "kiss" or saying "whatever I want".

When she said she wonders what her friends were doing I might have said....well let's go see! Social proof some more by winning her friends over and you might have hooked her again.

[azmodan]

i'm not sure this is the correct way to describe this, but you needed to maintain your momentum.

once a girl is hooked on a guy, she doesn't want the momentum to slow down too much. it's true in relationships as well as pickups. if you were dating a girl seriously and dating her 3-4 nights/week and suddenly cut that to 1-2, i guarantee you she notices and reacts negatively to it.

it sounds like you were moving things along rapidly and smoothly up until your kino games. she was probably expecting to get kissed on the lips at the very least in the next 5 minutes or so after that rock-paper-scissors cheek kiss, and when it didn't happen, you lost all the momentum you had. it probably put her off a little bit.

in other words, i agree with cagalindo: you should have attempted a kiss close, and preferably not too long after those kino games that were apparently working very well.

[Mowglii]

I've enjoyed reading your posts before and I have some common ground with you here, I kinda fall flat at the same position. For me I always feel like I'm running out of momentum so I will have a invested interest in what replies you get.
Peace

[HumorUS]

Thanks for the advice guys.. I'm gonna work on this.. I want to be the very best!

[Zyxst]

Its pretty common to become discouraged after something like that.

Before anyone learned the game there were ups and downs in all interactions, just that most people aren't trained to see them. Knowledge is power but ignorance can sometimes be better, because our emotions stay unaffected.

[Mr Jack]

i remember reading something like u should walk away on a high, maybe of got her number n left before the night got quieter?