Something that Johnny Soporno said about Toronto

[MAG!C]

Originally Posted by Johnny Soporno

torontosocial.net is the addy, it's not very-well attended so far as I know, and it's pretty hard-core on becoming a registered member.
Tenmagnet and Kelemvor (Mystery Method approach coaches) are both on there, as well as a juggler-method coach, and a bunch of other local guys worth meeting.
Toronto is one of THE hardest cities for social interaction in the entire English- Speaking world - maybe the hardest, it's a toss-up with Salt-Lake City, in my experience.
It's the Pick Up 'Mean Streets' which have forced people to become very good, or wither and remain chumps.
To be honest, many of the top players come from around here, and each has established their own system of Game, so to speak, including Mystery, Payton Kane, Tyler Durden, and your humble narrator.
Johnny Soporno

From a while back. But I re-read it 3 times. So true.
If you think your skillset is UP THERE, come visit Toronto and test your game. And maybe it is not true, and some people will disagree, but... If that happenes to be the case, or if Toronto is... UP THERE in the TOP 3...

... And I know for a fact that I can pull females (Living in Toronto)




... I have the biggest smile as I write this.
My 2 cents.

[NumbaOneDesi]

Canada!?

What's so tough about Toronto, Im curious.

[MAG!C]

First of all we have a channel here in Toronto and every Wednesday night we have a TV show called KEYS TO THE VIP (YouTube it), there is 3 competitios, 2 guys, 4 'masters'. The masters tell the guy the competition, and they have to do it. The one who wins, gets a VIP Treatmet in anightclub.

This was aired already for over 1 year? For sure.
Most of the guys who appear ... I'd say.. 1 in 4 guys? I pretty much know. They are nightclubs promoters ("Part of the tribe"), et cetra. So they are really.. Up there with 'social skills'

... So Imagine.. every Wednesday.. New pick up lines, new guys, et cetra.

Not only that... I read what Johnny Soporno said, and he said that (I.. Think...) Toronto is very "Anti-Social"... In a way he is correct. Toronto is FAST-MOVING CITY. No one will wait for you here. It is considered the the TOP multi-cultural city on the globe, and people are following there own--

Point is...
You go to nightclub... Girls already have the, "BITCH SHIELD" on... And the funny thing is... The more you watch KEYS TO THE VIP the more you realize that 80% of the pick up lines start with, "Hi, how are you, my name is Mag!c"

And none of that... 'game'.

Pretty sick. I agree that Toronto is one of the thoughest cities to sarge.
I've been in L.A and NYC, and Toronto (Originally from Europe)... And ye man.

Toronto is Tough.
But fuck it, you work with the best, you'll become one soon.

[Dumptruck]

Toronto can be tough, as someone who was born and raised here its a little different for me having a social circle already.

I dont think having keys to the VIP on TV makes it harder to get out there and socialize with women though, if anything watching it you can get ideas of great places to go that are full of gorgeous women waiting to meet you....

But yes we have all encountered the bitch shield here a fair bit.

[MAG!C]

No, no... See the thing with KEYS TO THE VIP is that it didn't change the 'picking-up-women-in-the-nightclub' a whole lot. BUT it did change it... All those AFCs started to use the lines that were on the KEYS TO THE VIP

... So now you have to be reall original and non-threatning because women RIGHT away will assume that you are trying to pick them up. EVEN if your cellphone was stolen, your buddies left you, you got beat up and dropped your wallet, and just asking the female for 'the time'...

That is why I think Female Wing is amazing here in Toronto!

[Dumptruck]

ya I guess thats true, but even after the AFC says some opener he heard on the show, that can only take you so far. Thats kindof good if you have to be more creative i guess.

To be honest I've lived here almost my whole life, so I don't really know if its easier to pick up in other cities or towns (I went to university in hamilton and that was easier but mostly cuz I was going to university not based on the city itself)

Anyway, if chicks in Toronto are putting up the bitch shield, thats why we have all these posts to read and learn from right?

Happy hunting buddy.

[MAG!C]

Oh totally agreed. Haha!

Oh Toronto... You shithole you. Why cant you just give us free naked females who are all nymphs, can keep conversations, and are STD-Free. Grrr.

[HungryC]

I dunno... I think every city has a "degree of difficulty" for each individual... I've been on business trips to Toronto and each time I've met a different girl whenever I've gone out after work. Maybe it's b/c I'm "travelling" and just looking to have a good time, but it's easier for me in TO than back home in Vancouver.

[PuaSolitaire]

I learned and lived in Toronto all summer. Let me tell you-Go to any of the EXCLUSIVE high class night clubs, and those girls will FUCKING EAT YOU if you don't have REAL game, REAL confidence.

After learning there, my hometown is nothing. I don't have to open girls, EVER. They open me. They tell ME that I am going home with THEM. THAT is what Toronto gave me.

College bars mean shit. It's the superficial, high class, rich bitch bars you have to have REAL skill for. I promise you, 98% of guys in this community would fail.


Jeremy

[MAG!C]

Serious huh? Ye man, Toronto compared to some 'up there' cities has a sharp contrast between picking-up girls.