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01-09-2006, 06:39 PM
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| | | TranscENDING Competition. Harlequin-Jitsu
Jrock's 'I almost got killed because I had game' post in FR is something of a disturbance to me.
Guys like that, they're going to end up killing someone, even if it's themselves. I don't know about you but I don't like violence toward anyone.
Many Amogs & WBAFCs, no matter their size, they're still just a screwed up adolescent kid on the inside with a great deal to learn about how to be a decent human being.
I've studied psychology til I can't bear to study anymore, then I discovered Fight Psychology. One of my Sensei, a guy named Max has a degree in psychology. He's known as the best Streetfighter in Leeds yet he's one of the most respectful & peaceful guys I've ever known. His frame coneys his inner peace. He does not expect the world around him to be violent & so he does not experience violence without his control. Know this: What you expect of the world, you experience in the world. What you think of life, manifests... what you think of, you create... You fear spiders?
You will notice the spider, you will find it. It attracts your awareness. No fear people. And in pre-fight escalation, embrace fear, it will give you the adrenaline for the fight of flight mechanism.
Fear is totally dependant on you not wanting it. So let it in & move past it. Embrace fear; it's not the fear that we're trying to avoid, it's cowardice that you should avoid.
This amogging thing, it should not be about agression. That's for the ego. We attack what we fear. Why should I fear my brother? The best place to meet is on equal terms.
Know when to out-alpha & when just to display equality. Don't attack the Amogs. Use humour after sincerity, use silence & calm when another is raising their voice. Have NO fear & people will not know how to defeat you. Prize yourself above any gain an amog could make by bringing you down. Knowing you has a vakue greater than fighting you: convey this.
Find out what appeals to people. You don't HAVE to befriend them, you just have to show that you're of value & that you're not to be feared. Yet they can still detect that it would be a dumb move to get on the wrong side of you.
The guy that was agressive toward you in a set, would he be so agressive if he were the one you opened & won over first?
Sarge & the amogs will come.
Amog & the girls will come.
Even when it seems too late, you can use your identity & value to win guys over.
I've gone up to the primo alpha of a set of guys that were hunting me down, I've said something to him, he's laughed like a hyena, told me I'm alright & then insisted I roll with him & his 'crew' & been to what seemed like every VIP room in the city. If you're going to be a PUA you should know how to handle yourself, your social tools & any Peacocking you might do can create extremely jealous AFCs, some of whom are not your average guys... they could be drug dealers, former convicts & when I visit certain areas, I run into a lot of soldiers & they're usually at war with themselves & at the very least, any guy they don't like the look of.
If you're going to be working in one area or one city for a while, I advise you to make a connection with doormen, Dj's club owners, get familiar & handshake happy with anyone that looks like they could be your rival or cock block on any other day. Find powerful people, find their passions, usually more power, & let them talk about themselves to you for ten minutes, then tell them who you are, about your company or your club/bar/ambitions/car, anything that they will respect & then they like you & even if you fuck up & they don't like you, they WILL respect you & that's enough.
I used to work in security, close protection & other things so I'm lucky in that I know a great deal of doormen & others like me. 7 years ago I was in a pizza shop after the clubs kicked out, I was with a girl that I'd effectively time-bridged there, an arrangement I'd made from within a club called on Boar Lane Leeds called NATO. A Squaddie & his three giant friends sat down at the table next to us & very quickly took a disliking to me, I was in a suit & doing well with the girl. The main alpha, a drunk & dangerous Royal Marine started running his mouth... The girl suggested we leave & I was about to agree with her when I saw four doormen from NATO entering & ordering their food. I knew three of them on first name terms, one of them, Maurice was in particular not the sort of bouncer you'd want to get on the wrong side of.
When he came over to me & said hi to me the big sod that had it in for me shut his hole & as my friend told the girl I was with was in 'good hands' I quipped, "She hasn't had my hands yet Maurice but I'm glad you know of my reputation." The doormen went to sit at the table in front of us & I looked over at the Squaddies, I asked them where they all worked out since they were all huge. "Army gym" said one of them.
h "Really, a Commando are you?" "That's right, Royal Marines..." (they told me their regiment out of York though I forget it now)
h "Yeah, so you're on leave?" "Aye... & you should be too."
h "Maybe not, here..." & I gave him my card & asked them:
"If you boys wanna earn some extra crust sometime give me a call, I always have work for guys like you." Now I never met a man that wasn't interested in earning money, especially on the side & even when a guy's thinking about smashing your face in he'll do it twice as fast if he's been paid to do it.
The Marines' attitude changed immediately. Their first question was: "What the fuck's this about" I gave my answer as I stood up to leave & helped the girl put her jacket round her shoulders. Their next question was: "When's a good time to call."
Do you think that could have worked only work for me? If a guy made up a story about his history, but still had the cards made that backed it up... if the doormen hadn't entered like they did here, do you not think that any person could have won the favour of the drunk soldiers?
It is not in human nature to be violent, violence is something that animals resort to when we are in fear. It is human nature to be good to yourself & others. It takes less energy being a good person than it does to be a marauding destroyer. I'm no different to you. You can be far beyond where I am. I train with riot police at the House of the Divine Warrior, Bujinkan Kokoro Dojo www.bujinkan.co.uk & in Aikido I'm senior grade & have trained with the Japanese Senshusei. I used to do Submission fighting & train with people like Max Gillespie, taught under Les Allen who you could search Google for or check out SFUK. Am I seeking your validation? Yes: I just don't want you to think this is BS. I owe my life to the knowledge I have & the many mistakes I've learned from.
Dealing with Alphas is one of the things I'm very good at. I suck at lots of things but Amogging isn't one of them.
If any PUA wants a better way to deal with Amogs or if they just want to perfect their game with their inner strength, all you need to do is study. Pick an art form, whatever works for you; it can be Yoga, Tai Chi Chuan, Wrestling, Submission Fighting, Karate, Boxing & so on. Get some cardio done, swim 60 lengths of a pool, but whatever you do... don't limit yourselves.
It is not human nature to limit ourselves; we are designed to be, unlimited.
Anyone in that reads this if they would like a month free at Kokoro Dojo or would like information on our affiliates in the USA then PM me, we're linked up with Bujinkan in Atlanta. It's more than combat Jiu Jitsu as anyone that clicks the link will see. Bujinkan is for sure the art of fighting without fighting. It gives me a power behind my eyes. As Syren will testify, no Amogs want to be violent. In fact they're usually great guys in other situations.
Like in Fight Club, Tyler Durden's Homework asssignment, Start A Fight & Lose... it's not easy. People don't WANT to fight. With Bujinkan & the other stuff I've done people can pick up from me a protecting vibe. I can pacify any angry Amog because I know how they work... I used to be one. My introduction here is long-winded but you'll see why I am the way I am from it. I don't want to hear of ANY PUAs or people suffer what Jrock went through; though he dealt with it very well & had the strength to retreat, I'm not saying that you're the one & you can dodge bullets but I AM saying that you won't have to. See the chodes of the matrix & disarm them with harmlessness or overwhelming value. Game them... "Guys are just ugly girls." - Mystery. Curiosity & envy... DEV. Demonstrate Equal Value.
Look at martial arts & Bujinkan. Part of the Creed of Ninjitsu is that 'Everyone feels safer with me around."
My game would SUCK without my inner confidence & spirit.
Perfect yourselves... The Jitsu isn't all about reframing & disarming agreession. The best Harlequin-Jitsu is when you just have fun. I sarged without any wingmen for over ten years. It's great & a poor wingman will usually only hold you back.
Forget the girls for a while when you arrive at the venue. Amog. The girls looking at you will notice you being the alpha as you control the conversation, plus you appear to know everyone. Meet the guys, game them, take a genuine interest in the good guys that you meet. You won't look like you're on your own & you'll make wingmen of them without them being aware if you so wish. Forward merging sets comes with social intelligence & re-cognizing shared human values.
Have a drink in your hand & make out like your just seeking a bit of guy company cauz you're usually surrounded by women, which should be true for you anyway.
Example. When I go out alone I might say to a bunch of guys.
HQ-"Hey fellas, did you ever see the, The Magic Roundabout?'" (I you try this, pick a zany show from your childhood that made no bloody sense)
Guy 1-"Yeah, course. Great show."
Guy2-"Loved that show"
HQ-"What the hell was all that about then?"
*laughter* Point out the guy in the set that reminds you of Dougal, the Zebedee & so on. Fasle disqualify as announcing yourself as Florence.
Stack forward, with other shows that you loved as a kid. It's a great conversation. Any conversation is great if it's enjoyable. Talk music, film, anything.
Say where you're going & why, ask them if they're on a stag do. Ask them what they're celebrating, stack. How do they no each other, where are they hiding the women? Who's driving? What the hell's going on in the premiership/NFL/Baseball season. You can get out of there once you have established enough endearment toward you that they won't cockblock you.
Guy stuff, are they on the pull, anything like that. Kick ass, shake hands, take names, make an impact, raise their energy. If you meet guys who are say, in an unsigned band then ask them about it, let them DHV, be interested.
Interesting people are people that are interested in things. If you meet a guy that's out to meet girls, discuss tactics, you'll blow him away with your theory & when trust is established, if you like the guy, you can bring him into the game.
Tell him about MM, JM, Bristol Lair, the LSS, Neil's book. As I write this I have 13 referrals on MM. Go wing.
Or just blow sets openon your own run your game & forward merge after you hook. You can qualify on the fly. Qualifly. "Lets go make some new friends." Is a Mystery classic.
Peace. Any questions?
__________________ Harlequin: Weapon of mass seduction When you refuse to accept what you cannot change: this is trauma.
When you decide to change what you cannot accept: this is revolution.
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01-09-2006, 07:23 PM
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| | | You state: "It is not in human nature to be violent, violence is something that animals resort to when we are in fear. It is human nature to be good to yourself & others. It takes less energy being a good person than it does to be a marauding destroyer."
... To which I must respectfully and violently [sic] disagree.
Violence IS motivated by the most basic elements of human nature: fear, greed, envy, jealousy, dominance, territoriality and protectiveness. It can also be motivated by substance and alcohol abuse and intoxication.
You are living in a fairy tale world if you think it is human nature to be good. It may be YOUR nature to be good. It is not everyones.
One of the things that appeals to me about Mystery's research is that he analyses how man's drives and nature developed over the past 40,000 years and how we became hard wired to develop the fears and behaviors we've acquired. | 
01-09-2006, 07:43 PM
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| | | Human virtue Yes I revere Mystery also because of his accurate references to our primal forefathers.
On the subject of human nature no it is our nature to be a community & a tribe. The thing with tribes is that the tribe is one. It is a human failure to see that all humans belong to the same tribe... the human tribe.
So when I was in gangs in school & I saw two member of another gang beating down someone from ours do you think I got 'all natural' on them, or did I go ape & jump in? In that experience it was the latter. But in my time getting training from people like Geoff Thompson in fight psychology I see that the prime instinct in FIGHT OR FLIGHT scenarios is simply a question of survival. So is the guy in Jrock's post threatening his life? Yes, I would say so, which is why I admire Jrock's courage in choosing flight. I was disturbed that initially he left that girl protecting only himself. Eventually he sorted it out.
If you want to talk about 40,000 years ago though, sure, we were often violent beings & many of us though, were very fucking cold (",)
But guess what, this is here & now & I don't give a monkeys about the past. I respect it & I learn from it, my own & the past of others but I'm into what's going on right here & right now. The past is only relevant if I can apply someone else's learning or their story to my own story that I live each day. Who we are now & who we were then, that's ALL CHANGE mon ami. We are beings of change & we are getting very good at dealing with change.
No offence to your narrow minded & rather limiting view of our race but, have you been to Japan lately?
This is a country where violence is deeply rooted in history. This country was forged by it & has had it's fair share of brutal slayings, oppressive campaigns & whose native's warrior mentality is still a part of every day life; especially in business.
Yet crime is rare, extremely so. The only major crime is from organised families, some as ancient as the dynasties they still corrupt. They live in a disciplined harmony with each other, have rituals for many everyday acts yet when it comes to the crunch, they do everything from stand on ceremony.
No great man is without trials. My history has forged me into the character I am today. But I am in no gang. I have no battle to fight & I thank God everyday for the life I live.
Fear you say? Greed... envy... jealousy... pathetic. These are the traits of a weak species that will exterminate itself.
Territorial fearful beings? That's for the pissing of dogs. One world not three. Protective respect for all life, a vital trait for survival & one that I nurture in my nature.
Substance and alcohol abuse & intoxication? Avoid them like I'm sure you don't (",) They are the death of the soul.
You can live in Jrocks world, or you can create your own, a better one all around you.
Choose wisely.
Peace be with you... stay safe.
Some more Harlequin-Jitsu here... & on the next page.
__________________ Harlequin: Weapon of mass seduction When you refuse to accept what you cannot change: this is trauma.
When you decide to change what you cannot accept: this is revolution.
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01-09-2006, 07:58 PM
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| | | Which post are you referencing? I thought you were refering to post where the fat guy knocked our board member across the bar for talking to "Amber"?
Regardless, I was commenting on your assertion that violence is something we resort to when we are in fear drive. To which I still advocate is a component to other drives, such as dominance, intimidation, etc... | 
01-09-2006, 08:07 PM
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| | | Of course it is, I acknowledge this, but I say that it is indesireable in my world. I fear nothing. The vest I am wearing now says 'No Fear' on it, how's that for synchronicity. With people that want to act like idiots you can deal with them, we all can. You can have a drive to intimidate them. I too can advocate this when necessary. With Syren on Saturday I sat down with him in Kadas cafe on a break from the bars, some guys started mocking me. The room became tense. I called them out on it, asked them if they were laughing at me. They all looked like rugby players. When I'd tired of hearing their shit I stood up, slammed the nearby main door that had a sighn on it saying 'Please close' as it was a cold night, went over to them quite aggressively & as I sat down beside them, rightin their pack I kicked one on the arm, hard, but made it look like an accident. I went right in there & they didn't like it one bit but my confidence shocked them. They didn't know how to handle this. One of them started running his mouth but he was being reasonable. He was using diplomacy, telling me he didn't like aggression. I looked into his eyes, he was scared of me. Fine, that's natural. I'm seeking to dominate them, to out-alpha them all. I used that intimidation on the three guys to my advantage. They were all big & alpha, but not as alpha as I can be & I have smashed the sternums of men bigger than they are a hundred times in the ring. It's all relative Rolex. I think that you have a lot to learn of the alpha world & how to make it work for you by showing these alpha wannabe's that you're one of them.
I left the three guys, Harlan, Dean & Steve with them respecting me & Oliver, & a guy from Lancashire were bystanders that wanted to know who I was & how they could contact me. The three guys were all great guys. But for you I expect you would have not dealt with them as I did.
__________________ Harlequin: Weapon of mass seduction When you refuse to accept what you cannot change: this is trauma.
When you decide to change what you cannot accept: this is revolution.
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01-09-2006, 08:13 PM
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| | | You just proved my point: You used violence "in the ring" ... whereas earlier, you stated that "violence is something that animals resort to when we are in fear."
So... what type of fear were you resorting to when you got into that ring?
I'm going to end this here, as it's becoming rhetorical and not relating to the topic of MM. | 
01-09-2006, 08:20 PM
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| | | Fear in the ring? I don't have any fear in the ring, I have fear's grandfather... respect. Anyone that takes fear into the ring has already lost. Don't be upset. I'm writing this in the hope that you don't have to deal with aggression from other people again, not in the way you have been doing.
You can outclass them on every level.
Rolex, remember this... I'm on your side brother. I'm like you, trying to perfect my game, & believe me, this is VERY relevant to the GAME because you wil encounter alphas wherever you Sarge & there's hundreds of ways of handling their hundreds of types.
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01-09-2006, 08:25 PM
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| | | hmmmm I think Harlequin's trying to illustrate that he's in an unusual situation. If I'm getting this right Harlequin, you have extensive martial arts experience and are a natural AMOG.
Perhaps you could be an AMOGing expert for us. Maybe you could keep track of exactly what it is you're doing when you bluff an AMOG or say just the right thing to disarm him. Then you could present a style of AMOGing that is different from TD's. He said himself that the guys over in Europe have game, so explaining how to AMOG the guys you're around should be gold for American guys to use.
TD's frame seems to be "I'm better than everyone else and they need to realize that." While yours seems to be more "I'm here for what I want, and I know I can get it, so I don't need any extra trouble." So show us exactly HOW you accomplish what you do so that everyone can avoid AMOG trouble. | 
01-09-2006, 08:36 PM
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| | | You do not have to be an Illusionist to do Mystery Method & nor do you have to be a Martial Artist to do Harlequin-Jitsu. They can help, yet they are not essential. The forum is here for people to improve their game. The MA experience is a great advantage to me though it is not essential if you have the right inner-game & frame (frame of mind)
I know very few magic tricks but I learned vast amounts of game from Mystery over the years. Mystery was a legend on the old Newsgroups. My game is good, I do well, yet I'm no illusionist (delusionist maybe) Do you have to be a martial artist to have inner game? No.
I can punch well above my weight when it comes to Amogging & so can you.
Moggy'ing? Pussyfooting around like a moggy certainly won't achieve it. I respect Tyler Durden's contribution, he's a huge asset to the game no matter how much you may dislike him & his Project Mayhem like ideas, he, like myself is a good observer of people.
Anyways, yes, I'd like to give something back to Mystery. I owe MM a great deal.
Try this, one of my favourites: go up to the Amog, say loudly: "Do you know the best way to get dandruff off a cunt?"
When he shakes his head casually brush his shoulder as if you're dusting him off.
You might as well crucify him upside down. I've never had an Alpha come back from that because the rest of the set will laugh & they will appear even less alpha if they stick around & watch you continue making the girls like you, laughing at your stories & fighting to give their numbers to you. The Bmog* is Dead, long live the APUA**
*Bmog = Beta male of group. **Aspiring PUA.
I once out Alpha'd a celebrity in London, he was ruining everything. I made the guy look like a chump & I even loved the guy's music. You don't let anyone screw you over, no matter who they are.
My favourite way of dealing with Amogs is to simply endear myself to them, show them my value & elicit their value, building mutual respect. Even if I disagree with their views I understand that no one does anything 'wrong' given their model of the world. People usually think they're right. Yet by disagreeing, much like the neg theory, you can garner respect just by holding to your viewpoint in the face of the amog's.
Way I see it, MM is great for Amogging, game the guys. Some like TD's stuff. I don't really find TD beneficial for me. I prefer to show the Amog the prize of knowing me to be GREATER than any value the Amog could redeem by cockblocking me & getting to the target. The really heavy stuff I can't detail it here, it's very powerful. It involves NLP, Transference, Intuitive Kinesis & the power behind my eyes. I can't have people running off into the world trying it out. It would be like giving a flame-thrower to a pre-teen pyro. All NLP is powerful. But like Hypnosis, you can screw people up if you don't know what you're doing.
You have to be careful. I once fucked up. This Harlequin-Jitsu Jitsu is the result of my life's work, it was developed for purposes beyond the game. A girl ended up sectioned in Ward 36 of St. James hospital. She'd said if I didn't see her & give her 'babies' then she'd kill herself. If I hadn't have managed to get back in & undo my little spell she would've been Section 8. She's ok now but I won't be seeing her again. Wanna know what I'd done to this girl? I was with her a few hours with her then I read her a poem that I wrote & then danced with her & gave her the Harlequin's kiss, which isn't what you think. I left for my little poison to take effect & when I returned the next day her flatmate told me that an ambulance had come to pick her up & she'd been dragged out & sedated. This is NOT a fairy tale & NLP & Hypnosis are REAL ways to PLANT seeds in people's minds. Transference is not psychic bs. It's having your frame re-frame other people's. You're not thinking for for someone else, you're taking their road map for their reality & re-mapping it in a way more conducive to your aims. Sometime's there's suggestion & embedded commands. After that I abandoned my research & I returned to ground zero.
It wasn't until I saw how I could benefit people that I started up again. I have worked in security, in close protection & I've taught bodyguards how to master their frame & spot who's likely to give them trouble. I got knifed once because I failed to see. I was determined that would never happen again.
Harlequin-Jitsu is anything but fighting. It's about using frame & transference to avoid conflict. You've seen the Derren Brown clip where he gets the guy he's stopped to ask for directions so compliant that he gives Derren his wallet, watch & phone? How can this occur? All battles are one & won in the mind. All communication is mental first. It's cerebral & socio-spiritual. Physical violence is what animals do. We are divinity embodied. Yes Humanity attacks what it fears, yet fear is about not understanding, not knowing. People... EMBRACE THE UNKNOWN.
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01-09-2006, 08:41 PM
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| | | Back to the martial arts bit: You train in Yoshinkan, eh? (I personally prefer Kunai) I like the sound of that program you were in, in any case.
And yes, while beating the other guys face in to the ground is a basic human instinct, knowing exactly what to do when the guy does try it averts most potential-fights (it's weird, if you stare a guy down knowing exactly the buttons to push if he gives you an excuse, really changes things.
P.S. If you want intensity training, I highly recommend any form of Iaido |  | | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread | Linear Mode | |
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