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Old 05-14-2006, 08:43 PM
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Essence of Communication
[This is a long article I have written for you to read in order to get a higher understanding of communication, which from my point of view is the most important thing when picking up girls. This is not a method by its own but a knowledge to be used with knowledge about how women think and how to pick up chicks.]
The following is my own concept and idea of what communication and understanding is. This concept is something I have reached by different studies, I am not the author of all principles, but it is my accumulated understanding of the subject.
Understanding: When people understand each other they will get along well. With full understanding of something comes also the ability to fully control it. With a certain lack of understanding comes confusion and with confusion comes disorder. In confusion there’s only randomness and it could be said that things are just left to faith or destiny. With very good understanding comes the power to control. When you control something nothing is left to coincidence, it goes in the direction decided by the one executing the control.
Understanding consists of three parts which could be looked upon as a triangle. In each corner you have each part and if you then increase on you increase all. If you pull one closer to the middle you will make the whole
triangle smaller. So increase on one is increase on all. Decrease on one is decrease on all. The three parts can be named: Communication, Reality and Affinity/Love.
Communication
The first one to be explained is communication. It is the very first thing that must come before you can have an understanding.
Communication is a huge subject and probably the most primary thing in life. it is THE fundamental thing. Therefore it can also be said that to master communication is the most valuable skill anyone can attain in life. The ACTUAL capability to communicate with anyone about anything.
Communication is everything. With communication you can solve any problem.
When there’s absolutely no communication there’s nothing. Even death communicates. No communication at all is an absolute condition, absolutes are unattainable. When you communicate you put an outflow, when you receive communication you have an inflow. Enough outflow will always give an inflow. Example: If you hit somebody a sufficient amount of times
he will originate something. If you ask an enough amount of people if they want to have sex with you, why sooner or later you will ask someone who says yes. To much inflow will have you introverted. Example: Television, a kid who only receives communication without being able to communicate back can wind up being autistic. People who get an overwhelming stream of communication can also wind up feeling very bad. Communication is what keeps things alive. Example: Atoms have an attraction to each other, that’s communication. The Earth has gravity wich is an attracting craft. All matter must communicate to persist. With no communication everything would vanish. Any communication is better than a complete absence of communication. Example: No matter how fascist this will sound, a person who NEVER communicates will have more problems than a person who only communicates with his fists. A kid who doesn’t receive any communication at all WILL be in worse condition than a kid who only receive communication from his fathers solid fists.
Communication can be divided into three subcategories, which are:
1. Linguistic communication: refers to the spoken word, the written word, sign language, symbols etc.
2. Solid communication: refers to touch, hit, stroke, handshake, hug, sex, holding etc. etc.
3. Perceptive communication: refers to vision, taste, sensation, intuition etc. etc.
Reality
Reality is what you recognize as real. It is your own truth. Your ideas, your opinions and thoughts. It is your outlook on the world. Different people have different realities. When two or more people share an adequate amount of reality they could be called friends and the higher their mutual reality gets
the more they will like each other. When the shared reality reaches a very high level it will bring about love or brotherhood. A woman and man who have a shared reality will love each other.
People who do not have any reality shared will not be friends. There is in the humankind always some reality, though. For example you can ask a person if he does believe that he is a human, he answers "yes", you reply "well, so do I", you do now have a shared reality.
Reality can be reached through communication. More reality brings along more communication, more communication brings even more reality. But if you then break reality you will very suddenly decrease them all. If you communicate less and less the reality will to a certain degree be lessened. A break in any of the three parts will lessen the understanding and it will lessen each part of the corner.
(Example on break in reality: Person A says to Person B "Oh, it is certainly a nice weather today." Person B replies "Hm, I have a scent of rain coming in". This situation dont have to wipe out communication completely but it will lessen the reality. A more damaging example could be the a conflict in reality on the subject of politics or religion. We have seen it too often, two groups who doesn't share reality on which god is the correct and existing one. Each god says that people who do not believe in him are sinners and sinners should be diminished. They have a conflict in their reality, and this conflict tells them to destroy the other group. Any war is an example of this. We have all seen the leftwing politics fighting the right-wing politics and vice versa. It is a conflict based on lack of understanding. No shared reality.)
Affinity/Love
Affinity is the degree of affection to another being, the love, the brotherhood.
The higher the affinity is between two persons the closer they can be to each other. When the affinity is low two people can not even be in the same room. Its not said that they will fight, since fighting is communication, but its not safe that they wont fight either. However, when a person has low affinity for another person he will not appreciate to have this person too close. When the affinity reaches a very high level handshakes, hugs, kisses and even sex will be initiated. This does not mean that a handshake is high affinity, a handshake can be very formal.
A really spontaneous hug is a sign on affinity, though. Affinity can also be called attraction, the feeling of wanting to be closer to another person. When the affinity is mutual the people will not have any problem at all with being close to each other.
You cant have a break in any of these three parts, Affinity, Reality and Communication without calling it a break on all three.
Communication it the keystone.
Good communication is mutual. Everything wants to communicate, not letting someone communicate increases the need of him or her to communicate. To communicate is to live. To avoid communication could be considered to die.
From this fallows a technique that could be called "reach and withdraw" it is the action of first communicating and then pull back and withdraw. When a communication is opened but then pulled back it creates a vacuum that needs to be filled out.
An example is the phenomena that can be seen in practical jokes. Somebody stands on a balcony and drops a water balloon in the head of someone walking on the sidewalk below. When the balloon is just about to hit the offender hides. The person who received this solid communication will no have a need to communicate back, even though he is very upset, and maybe even were in a hurry, he will stop, stare to the sky trying to find the offender. The offender is gone so the victim can be considered prevented from communicating back and this will be fallowed by him screaming something like "You little bastard show your self you coward! Come here and I’m going to give you some of this and some of that." If the victim is a more sensitive and careful person it could sound like "Hey, that was unnecessary, come down here young man. I just want to talk to you. I demand you young man to come down and talk to me". They both demand communication.
The pick up art is all about communication. Some people believe they can just stand in a corner and look cool and still get girls, maybe one or more will approach you but when she communicates you have to communicate back. You can neglect someone’s communication but only to a certain degree, but still you always have to communicate in one of the three categories of communication. It could be just a deep look into a woman’s eyes or it could be a brush on the shoulder.
A major part in communicating with others is to reach a point at which they start to originate, meaning they start coming up with realizations or honest expressions, such as "Ahhh, I have never really thought of that", "Oh that story had me thinking of when I was a kid and...", "My god, that was so funny" or just small things like "Wow!", "Whoa!", "Ahhh" etc. etc.
Originations come along when you have people answering questions about the environment or about themselves, they really have to ANSWER the questions not just something they expect that people want to hear.
Peoples communication is very often based on circuits, which refers to trained behaviours or pasted behaviours from other people. In life people often know how to act and how to answer questions in the best way, this is something we have been thought during our lifetime. If you ask someone "Hey, how are you?" you will most definitely get "Just good!" as a reply.
But if you give a more unexpected question like "How are you NOT?" you will penetrate the persons social communication and address the question to the individual. "How are you NOT?" would probably be answered with more things then one, maybe something like "Well I’m not sick and I’m not really sober...I’m blah blah".
A lot of people are not really present, they are in school, they are in the accident with their horse five years ago, and they are in their parent’s separation and so on. They have placed units of attention on all different kind of places.
So when you speak to them they have a machine speaking for them. The communication that is ought to be found is the communication that happens between individuals, not robots.
An individual do not care about looks or body size. An individual cares about communication and acknowledgement. So if you’re really communicating with a girl you will reach affection. A girl who goes to bed with a man but suddenly says that she cant is not communicating with YOU, she is probably communicating with her ex-boyfriend or else her communication is somebody else’s, it is a borrowed or taught communication that she applies.
This all explains why strange questions works out much better than normal questions, it is unexpected and can therefore not be answered by a circuit. Some people are although too out of present time to even notice that the question was strange or odd, in this case snap with your fingers, she looks at you, you smile and ask: "where are you right now?" This should bring the girl to present time. This It also explains why a takeaway works, it is a withdraw.
The only thing which lays deeper in a woman’s mind is the reason why a neg works and i can only come to one conclusion: to put somebody in doubt about something leaves this person with an open page. A mystery, mysteries has always attracted people. A mystery leaves room for speculation which is to originate. When someone is speculating they have to accumulate information. So if a girls is left in doubt of whether you like her or not, well she have to be with you more in order to fins out. She must answer more questions. After a while when she is just about to come to the conclusion that you are interested a new neg should come and put her back in to doubt.
There is of course a whole lot more to this and there’s of course a whole lot more in my head but this is the most fundamental stuff. Don’t forget that this is all just arbitrary principles, even though a lot is based on logic and research I cant claim that you all have to believe in this.
There is so much more I could tell you, I am a philosopher and I accumulate data, information and facts like a machine, how ever I don’t even think anyone will read this long article so why make it even longer by putting even more stuff in it. Nope, I wont, but if you have any questions about anything just holla at me.
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:32 PM
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Nice piece you've written here and it will be interesting to read the responses you get from it. Communication is a massive part in every relationship we have. However I believe the most important part you need to mention is that you have to communicate with belief.
Saying words to any person, will mean little if they do not believe you are sincere. Your frame will be tested over and over again. You cannot let your guard down
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Fucking brilliant stuff man....i can relate to this so much....does that mean I have more affinity for you now?
I also believe communication is the key to any relationship. and its excellent how you have described the triangle here to relate to each other.
When i was with my ex girlfriend of 5 years I felt all these sides of the triangle in action...I knew i always loved her...I love pretty much everyone...just like Rocky Balboa ....but as we got older I felt us growing apart...her reality was changing to mine and vice versa...then the communication started to breakdown and then the love we had started to drop....its unbelieveable how all this fits in...makes perfect sense.
Im going to move this thread to the main board for a while...it needs more exposure...and possibly a best of thread!
great stuff.
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Very nice information. Could you give us some reccomendations for books that deal with communication theories please?
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Really great stuff.
I love the triangle way of pulling all 3 together.
I would like to review this on a regular basis due to the facts its full of great facts that one should take in and internalize and get an understanding.
Best of material.
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Wow, that was really good. Thanks a lot for writing that up!
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My lack of ability to communicate is one of the main things that attracted me to the game. Since I was about 18 I've had a huge complex about communication and have tried many things to understand why I find it so hard to build rapport with people. I have knowledge, I'm funny, I'm loving, but all too often I ask how a person is, and then I'm left wondering how to continue the interaction.
On the rare occasion that I do get into rapport with someone, I tend to clutch onto the experience, because I feel that when the interaction ends I may not be able to initiate a new one with the person on a later date.
The things I learn here help me to interact with people. At this stage I may be using scripted material to do that but it feels so good just to be interacting with people for longer than 2 seconds.
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Last few paragraphs were awesome...great post...i second malibu's nomination
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This is a very good article, it has reframed some of the ways I view communication. I have the feeling Malibu will be moving this article somewhere. (",)
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Its a shame about the random line breaks I'm a readability snob, I admit it. Some interesting ideas.
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